Though I will withhold specifics pending the conclusion of my investigation, I feel obligated to note - following Monday's enthusiastic endorsement of the 2008 Texas Premier Football Camp - that I am working late into Tuesday night on an investigation involving allegations against the very same camp. If those allegations are proven false, there's quite a story about another Texas football camp (the source of the charges); if proven true, there's no way I could possibly stand by my initial endorsement.
In the meantime, I felt it important to state publicly that Monday's endorsement is on hold, pending the outcome of my inquiry.
[UPDATE 9:05 a.m.] While I try to get at the final story behind all this, let me note on the record that I just spoke with B.J. Johnson, who emphatically denies the misrepresentation I'm investigating: "Every [player] listed on the Premier Camp website is coming to the camp." More as soon as I can put the last pieces of this together. This is one of the most bizarre sequences of events I've ever personally encountered.
[UPDATE 11:34 a.m.] I just got off the phone with Roy Williams' attorney Mark Heligman, who informs me that Williams will not be in attendance at the Texas Premier Camp and that CAA has sent a cease and desist letter to BJ Johnson and the camp organizers.
[UPDATE 11:59 a.m.] To clarify a question I received, there's nothing criminal being investigated here. This started because BON wrote a glowing endorsement for the Texas Premier Camp, and took a turn last night when a relevant party informed me that the camp was misrepresenting the participating parties. Both sides have since accused the other of lying, and I've been working to sort it out. In the meantime, I just didn't feel right leaving that initial endorsement post up. We rarely agree to promote events at BON; in this case, it's proving problematic.
[UPDATE 1:28 p.m.] I just got off the phone with Michael Griffin, who also stated he will not be in attendance at the Texas Premier Football Camp. Details in the full story, which is coming together quickly now. (If you're wondering, the answer is yes, he was surprised that the person asking him questions concluded the conversation with a big hat tip to his Rose Bowl interception in 2006.)
[UPDATE 5:43 p.m.] Just when you think things are coming together... they change. As of late last week, Roy Williams was on the radio saying he'd be participating in the camp. As of today, obviously, he's not. The story remains on hold while people try to bridge that gap for me.
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This weirds YOU out?
We don’t even have a clue.
Creepiest thing you’ve ever written, Peter.
Horn Brain - June 25, 2008
what in the hell.....?
i like that you’ve got BJ Johnson on speed-dial though.
billyzane - June 25, 2008
To date...
That is my favorite part of this story so far.
Whats BJ up to these days? Aside from setting up camps with the 2003 receiving core?
BoddickerIsClutch - June 25, 2008
According to who you ask...
... Either nothing much or something crazy shady, apparently. PB’s awake at 2AM PAC-time (and not drunk), something must be weird.
Horn Brain - June 25, 2008
And as of five minutes ago...
Michael Griffin.
More coming when I can. This gets weirder by the second.
Peter Bean - June 25, 2008
OMG even if this turns out to be something horrible...
... You talked to Michael Griffin on the phone! Total win for you.
Horn Brain - June 25, 2008
You've got a gift for suspense PB
Not to mention investigation.
I see that Veronica Mars fixation has paid off handsomely.
learned hand - June 25, 2008
lol
Nah, not Veronica Mars. It’s Colombo, man, that’s got him to this point.
‘Oh, just one more thing, sir.’
Michael Bean - June 25, 2008
The one eyed stare down cannot be avoided.
BoddickerIsClutch - June 25, 2008
I think I know what's up
It’s Chris Simms’ fault. He choked under the pressure of a football camp for children. Thanks for ruining camp for all the kids, Chris, just like you ruined everything else you’ve ever done.
Meekrob - June 25, 2008
Are you saying it was Simms, in the library, with the lead pipe? Did I win!!!?
Speedway - June 25, 2008
What's going on?
I have no clue if I’m going to get hit w/ a joke or a mug shot…
Horndogger - June 25, 2008
Nice try PB, but I think I've figured this out.
What would someone allege about a football camp with Texas athletes?
Explanation A.) – Free weed for the kids.
Explanation B.) – Athletes using this to smuggle their weed.
Easiest episode of Columbo ever!
That said, please don’t be true, whatever it is.
Horn Brain - June 25, 2008
chill
Everyone needs to chill….im sure its a big misunderstanding…......And for Meekrob im sure you could never fill Simms shoes….....so back off a lil bit man….......
oldschool2 - June 25, 2008
Man had big feet? .nt whills
Horn Brain - June 25, 2008
I wear a size 14
How do I stack up?
Meekrob - June 25, 2008
i've been meaning to ask--
what the heck does ”.nt whillis” mean???
crocodile235 - June 25, 2008
Google would tell you
But since you asked, so will I!
See the comments – http://www.burntorangenation.com/2008/5/20/523876/i-m-officially-putting-noe
And theres only one i.
BoddickerIsClutch - June 25, 2008
Ah. Thank you.
My bad for the extra i.
So it’s not Whillis as is “whatchoo talkin’ ‘bout, Whillis,” but rather Whills as in “I am Whill, the immortal being watching this mysterious story unfold.”
crocodile235 - June 25, 2008
The immortal being...
... being just plain old whills.
Horn Brain - June 25, 2008
And being iconic pays really well. nt
whills - June 25, 2008
thanks for the link
That’s the first time I’ve watched Lache Seastrunk’s highlights. Now I know why my texas fan buddy is so high on him.
I’m very impressed with the Wing-T scheme Temple is running, especially with their pulling linemen.
Also like how they use Seastrunk at both TB and WB in their attack.
back to the conversation at hand…
Beergut - June 25, 2008
It's quiet...
... too quiet.
Horn Brain - June 25, 2008
Update #2
What? Was this some kind of thing where they were using Roy’s name without his permission? Or did Roy find out about what we will heretofore mention only as “The Shenanigans” and back out?
Horn Brain - June 25, 2008
Just a really odd confrontation
That somehow wound up working its way out through me, of all people. It was very clear to me that one of two camps was feeding me bad information, and it’s taking a lot of digging to sort out what’s actually taking place.
The backstory is pretty odd. The “shenanigans” aren’t the fireworks you’re suggesting. If anything’s ‘explosive’ about this story, it’s the way it’s rolled out over the last 12 hours. My cell phone is overheating.
Peter Bean - June 25, 2008
That's our man
PB!
...always stirrin’ up trouble!
horndude - June 25, 2008
CAA???
Creative Arts Agency?
Colonial Athletic Association?
Clean Air Act?
Was the camp planning on using aerosol stickem?
BoddickerIsClutch - June 25, 2008
Creative Arts Agency
Peter Bean - June 25, 2008
Artists, actually
And they are the meanest motherfuckers in town. Practically another branch of government out here.
Holly Anderson - June 25, 2008
OK so Google says the CAA is...
Command Arms Accessories
Creative Artists Agency
Colonial Athletic Association
College Art Association
Christian Anime Alliance (Roflcopter)
Clean Air Act
California Autobody Association
Chinese for Affirmative Action
Canadian Avalanche association
Central African Airways
Oh damn, PB spoiled it.
Horn Brain - June 25, 2008
That was close!
I thought for sure the Christian Anime Alliance was up in arms about something. What a relief!
16thLonghorn - June 25, 2008
Chinese for Affirmative Action?
Since when did Asians benefit from that? ;)
TheElusiveShadow - June 25, 2008
I was really hoping that the
Canadian Avalanche Association was involved.
ctex80 - June 25, 2008
The hair on my neck went up...
... when I thought about what the Christian Anime Alliance would do to BJ and co.
Horn Brain - June 25, 2008
I just googled the Christian Anime Alliance
Wow. It is exactly what it says it is.
ctex80 - June 25, 2008
Im sure everything will be handled accordingly…......
oldschool2 - June 25, 2008
Your comment history
is pretty interesting, oldschool….if you’re a plant, you’re doing a really bad job of it.
Holly Anderson - June 25, 2008
I thought that as well
But was waiting to see if we were to find any comments past this week from him.
BoddickerIsClutch - June 25, 2008
Ha
I was thinking the Central African Airways needed to get involved in these “shenanigans”
Houstonhorn - June 25, 2008
why the Central African Airways??? what are u implying???
oldschool2 - June 25, 2008
The California Autobody Association would like you to apply the breaks...
Because the Chinese for Affirmative Action think you are jumping to conclusions without a mat, and the Canadian Avalanche Association is afraid you might fall down.
BoddickerIsClutch - June 25, 2008
Since CAA had 17 planes and crashed 5 of them, three times killing everyone aboard, logically he’s implying that someone must pay the highest penalty for sullying the honor of Roy Williams.
Extreme, but I know where he’s coming from.
learned hand - June 25, 2008
Fact
Roy is more durable than the black box.
Meekrob - June 25, 2008
But Roy doesn't do air travel
because he jogs faster than the speed of sound
learned hand - June 25, 2008
haha
Nice and Nicer
props to meekrob and learnedhand
Roy is my number 1 Texas football player of all time. So I know your statements to be fact. just in case anyone else had any doubts.
So Michael and Roy aren’t showing up, Lets hope their names were being thrown out there without their permission, and not that they agreed to let their names be used and then backed out.
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
From what our fearless leader has said
I’m pretty certain this is the former, with their names being promoted without permission.
Holly Anderson - June 25, 2008
True Story
Roy actually delivered all of Pizza Hut’s pizzas in under 30 minutes, and is now the official First Alternate for Santa.
BoddickerIsClutch - June 25, 2008
Ha ha.
Was it St. Patricks Day in Detroit? I agree with texasfan05 Roy’s my #1 favorite – saw his first NFL game too! Sorry gotta go the Chicken Anemia Agent (CAA) is calling…
Speedway - June 25, 2008
Roy sporting
that Green Texas hat…..
I hope no one here wears Green Texas stuff.
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
I will now
Roy is my role model in all things, including fashion.
Meekrob - June 25, 2008
please!
it looks like a notre dame shirt
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
Except for being a hat.
Shake - June 25, 2008
ha
u got me, i really go to A&M
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
he always wears...
...that hat
vy til i die - June 25, 2008
i kno
he had it at the Tech game 2 years ago. It upset me.
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
My daughter does that, too.
She’s a UT senior now but damn, I just can’t abide the green texas gear but she likes it.
When I see her in it, I get a sharp metallic taste in my mouth and gold flashes…
whills - June 25, 2008
At least its not the pink Texas stuff. I can’t stand any pink sports stuff, but that’s just me.
mattyj - June 25, 2008
That is NOT just you
gwh65 - June 25, 2008
From what I hear sounds like they backed out at the last minute…...they were both there last year at Regan High….......So whats wrong now????
oldschool2 - June 25, 2008
From what you hear?
From whom, exactly?
Holly Anderson - June 25, 2008
Try asking
“How you guys?”
Speedway - June 25, 2008
OK I just heard....
Michael Huff talk to orangebloods, Literally heard it. And he said that yes Roy, Sloan, and BJ were supposed to be there.
Derrick Johnson, Kasey Studdard were also said to be there. of course Michael Huff said he would be there too.
If Michael Huff thinks Roy and Griffin were supposed to be there….. hmm….
heres the link. http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/902/654188.mp3
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
So the question is
Is he saying they were coming because he KNEW it, or because the camp’s clearly shady organizers told him so?
I will wait patiently for a reply from the totally-reliable-and-clearly-has-no-stake-in-this oldschool2.
Holly Anderson - June 25, 2008
Will Ron Weaver be there?
Someone get on the horn and confirm that.
the other Andrew - June 25, 2008
Another option...
Is that Lawyers and Agents want a piece of everything their clients do. They dont let them do small time stuff like this camp because 10% of bupkis gets them a tall boy Tecate. They’d rather book them in Nike commercials that bring in a shit ton.
So sometimes players might do things for their friends without their agents knowing.
the other Andrew - June 25, 2008
plant
I heard the interview with Michael Huff and also heard the interview with DJ on yesterday….....sounds like the guys will be at the camp….....
and no im not a plant…..........i just have better resources than you all
oldschool2 - June 25, 2008
comment history
im new to this site….....and a loyal UT fan….so of course you wouldnt find any comment history on me…...
oldschool2 - June 25, 2008
better resources???
so I guess directly talking to Michael Griffin and talking to Roy’s lawyer aren’t good resources??
Tell PB that
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
You're not fooling anyone, brah.
Just happen to show up today and do nothing but praise the camp and counter simple logic with no grammar or capital letters? Tell me you didn’t GRADUATE from UT.
Holly Anderson - June 25, 2008
Oldschool2 is driving my inner copyeditor insane...nt whills
learned hand - June 25, 2008
Mine too.
This kind of thing gives me hives.
Holly Anderson - June 25, 2008
Also,
he drove me to use the word “brah”, which I totally resent.
Holly Anderson - June 25, 2008
LOL you people are funny…....Can I not make statements like you all do or what????
oldschool2 - June 25, 2008
No, it would appear you can't.
Don’t you have some more Longhorn kids and parents to scam? Go on, now.
Holly Anderson - June 25, 2008
Dude, you shouldn't have
defended Simms…. thats a bad start with Texas fans right there….
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
what?
the other Andrew - June 25, 2008
he told meekrob to lay off simms
we never lay off a dude who cost us a chance to play in the NC.
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
Some of us have let go of Simms, but not the rules of grammar...nt whills
learned hand - June 25, 2008
And I still think
Roy and The Good Griffin are just covering for Simms. It’s his fault…somehow. I know it. My inside* sources tell me so.
*inside my head
Meekrob - June 25, 2008
Post will be up soon enough
Just awaiting a final comment from BJ.
Bottom line is: buyer beware.
Peter Bean - June 25, 2008
Tell BJ
That I said HI!
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
i think sum of you are jealous because you weren’t college athletes…..so this is your to way to bad mouth guys that you could never compete with….........AND if your true UT fan …...you love all the players that have ever worn a burnt orange jersey no matter what!!!!
oldschool2 - June 25, 2008
Chris Simms?
Is that you?
Luke Zimmermann - June 25, 2008
Recommend this comment!
This deserves a permanent home in the sidebar, verbatim.
Holly Anderson - June 25, 2008
I do Love Chris Simms
But I also Love my crack addicted cousin who stole money from my family members to buy his drugs….
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
overshare?
learned hand - June 25, 2008
i may have lied, but
you get the point
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
I think you're jealous
because you weren’t a college student. So this is your way of getting back at guys who you couldn’t compete with at the grammar rodeos and spelling bees. If you were a true speaker of what is probably your mother tongue, you would love all its rules of syntax no matter what!
Meekrob - June 25, 2008
That would make him
a grammar rodeo clown, no?
Holly Anderson - June 25, 2008
Technically I am a college athlete.
My flag football team got 3rd in B league last season!
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
So I re-created my account just to say
That this is the funniset set of Serious Business comments ever.
JoDB - June 25, 2008
as we all know
the internet, and football camps, are serious business. especially in the offseason.
the other Andrew - June 25, 2008
Tear*
God I wish it was football season
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
God I wish I was a college athlete.
Holly Anderson - June 25, 2008
We are a rare breed.
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
Just ask oldschool2
...who has gone quiet, I see.
Holly Anderson - June 25, 2008
That's because I stole the period off his keyboard...
...he’s powerless without the ellipsis.
learned hand - June 25, 2008
Bravo! Touché!
Those ellipses were killing me.
Speedway - June 26, 2008
Well, there you go.
JoDB - June 25, 2008
Tread lightly...
I hear he’s a beast with the quadruple question mark.
Holly Anderson - June 25, 2008
PB
has to be asking himself if we even care anymore about this camp thing…
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
did we ever?
the other Andrew - June 25, 2008
Says the new Dad
THINK OF THE CHILDREN
Peter Bean - June 25, 2008
ha
I would never let my kid attend a camp in PuhFlugerville. That’s way out in the boonies.
the other Andrew - June 26, 2008
Is there an age limit?
If not, then hell yes!
Meekrob - June 25, 2008
I guess BJ
hasn’t called back yet?
Austin180 - June 25, 2008
Unrelated completely , but Fresno State just won the title
Which means:
Mens National Championships Since WW2:
Fresno State: 1 Texas A&M: 0
the1austin - June 25, 2008
Why would anyone want to be called BJ?
16thLonghorn - June 25, 2008
I'm sure he told his mom to call him that
when he came out of her womb.
texasfan05 - June 25, 2008
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