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Wednesday Practice Report

While I was tied up here in California doing EDSBS LIVE, the Longhorns were busy in Austin practicing in front of fans. An old friend was nice enough to give me a call after the practice and share with me his thoughts. After the jump, I'll share with you the notes I took from our conversation. I wasn't there, but this is from someone whose judgment I value; I'd certainly be interested to hear the thoughts from others who made it out to DKR.

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  • "This is the 12th straight year I've gone to open fall practices and I'm more excited about this team than I have been any team in memory -- even the 2005 team. Maybe because we'd lost five straight to OU back then, I was afraid to believe. I believe in this team already."
  • "It looked to me like DJ Grant had his leg catch on the ground while he took a little pop from Earl Thomas. The body went one way while the leg stayed still. I suspect the knee popped, but who knows. We can hope it was just a strain."
  • "Everyone around me was impressed by Barrett Matthews. Texas isn't going to have an all-conference guy like Pettigrew out there, but we don't need one. We just need someone to keep defenses honest. Matthews' athleticism and versatility surprised me. I'm hopeful he can fill the role we need in the passing game."
  • "For all Colt's summer gushing about Brandon Collins, it was James Kirkendoll who looked like his new BFF. At least tonight. I've seen enough of these not to read too much into the small sample, but I like that we have some competition for the Quan Cosby role."
  • "The #2 QB battle is more interesting than I thought it would be. Sherrod Harris looked 100% healthy to me, which is great, but I was pretty wowed by what it looks like Garrett Gilbert will become -- and quickly. It's an interesting short-, medium-, and long-term strategy problem for the coaches to ponder. I'll be curious to hear your thoughts on how you'd handle it."  [PB: I'll devote a post to this, but I'd get Gilbert going now. There are good arguments on both sides, though. More later.]
  • "I'm with you on thinking Vondrell McGee can be a successful tailback for this team. Guy is solid in all the right ways, and more explosive than people realize. Like you, I think he's the nominal starter. Anything we get from Fozzy Whittaker is a bonus. He's intriguing, but he may need more space than our offense creates. We'll see."
  • Asking about Colt and any other receivers he noticed: "McCoy is sharp, but what I really love is watching him lead the team. You need that to win 12 straight games. He's a man out there. As for receivers, I don't have much more to add. I like our depth and think the group will produce more than enough playmakers. Malcolm Williams is close, real close. He's not thinking with the ball in his hands anymore, which is huge. The new burner -- Marquise Goodwin -- can play ball. Neither DJ Monroe nor DeSean Hales looks ready to be a regular contributor; both are a year away."
  • "The defense showed a lot of different looks, including a bunch of sets from the 3-4, with Roddrick Muckelroy, Jared Norton, Emmanuel Acho, and Keenan Robinson out there together at times. Given our situation at DT, it makes sense -- all four are playmakers. You wonder how Texas would fare against a team with a power rushing attack, but then you look at the Big 12 and shrug. Who f***ng cares? Both Texas and OU have better defenses than anyone outside the conference will ever realize."
  • "This isn't Mack Brown's strongest defensive line, but it may be his quickest. I think it's enough for Muschamp to get by. We'll see. An injury to Lamarr Houston would be catastrophic."
  • "The secondary is just unfair. We've talked about this before, but Aaron Williams is the best true sophomore DB Texas has ever had in the Mack Brown era. And we've had some good ones. Chykie Brown is healthy and is just so long, both in his strides and in his arms; when he concentrates with his footwork, he's not getting passed on. Curtis Brown has the raw athleticism but isn't there fundamentally yet. He had trouble with Kirkendoll tonight. Still, I'd rather have him than anyone on, say, Oklahoma State. Earl Thomas is All-Conference, and Blake Gideon and Christian Scott will do a great job competing with one another for top minutes."
  • "I didn't focus on the line play too much, but if I'm able to make it to tomorrow's practice I'll look in. The main thing for me is while I don't want to put too much into player notes on one practice, the way I saw everyone out there working made me 100% believe this team is what we think it is. All the hype will be about the Texas and OU offenses, but the real story is the defenses. The Sooners are much better on D than anyone in the mainstream media will talk about, but so is Texas. In fact, if you made me draft any defense from the MB era, I'm not sure I wouldn't choose this group #1, depth at tackle be damned. My love for the LBs/DBs is that strong."

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PB where in CA are you?

LB/RB
“The defense showed a lot of different looks, including a bunch of sets from the 3-4, with Roddrick Muckelroy, Jared Norton, Emmanuel Acho, and Keenan Robinson out there together at times. Given our situation at DT, it makes sense — all four are playmakers.

Good to see Acho and Robinson getting significant PT so that we’re not constantly rebuilding some other area of the defense every year. See if you can get some info on the DT’s, particularly Randall, Johnson, Howell, Higgins, and Howell.

McGee seemed to play better off the bench during the latter half of last season, but maybe he was more motivated because he wasn’t the starter. He’s probably more versatile than Fozzy and CJ; however, you’d think with the zone blocking scheme Fozzy would be more capable to take advantage of the cutback lanes. Hopefully GD develops some plays to get Fozzy in some space.

DBs

I was there tonight too, and was also impressed by the DBs. Are we finally going to have a lockdown secondary since maybe 2005? I sure hope so, and it sure does seem that way.

I’m not sure if Chiles is going to crack that receiving rotation. I’m sure he’ll be on the depth chart by virtue of being a junior already, but sheesh, I just don’t think he’s up there with the rest of them. Any one of the 6 or so receivers mentioned above should be ahead of him, and that sure was the case tonight — I can’t even remember the QBs throwing to him during scrimmage, although I’m sure they did. Chiles is quite simply a load of talent that unfortunately just does not fit with this team.

DTs and TEs will be the issue this season, but they’ll work around it. The strong LB and WR group will probably be able to compensate, mostly.

Gilbert is definitely seeing PT this season, and not just garbage time, safe to say.

Curtis Brown – I don’t know about this guy. I would think he should be mostly developed by now, but I don’t think that’s the case. He does still lack some fundamentals and struggles keeping up at times, as mentioned above. Maybe he’s just not the player we thought he would be, but we’ll see. Still plenty of football left for him.

Gilbert is definitely seeing PT this season, and not just garbage time, safe to say.

 I hope not.

I'm still torn here

If Gilbert is as good as people say he is and achieves the potential that so many think, he may be gone sooner than the 3 years that he would have remaining after this coming season.
If that’s the case, then we’re lucky to have Connor Wood waiting in the wings to take over for Gilbert.

On the flipside, if we make Gilbert wait a year, and he starts green next year, then Wood is right behind him, meaning we may lose out on ever fully developing Wood.

I could be wrong on both those accounts, but I’m still not sure what the best thing to do with Gilbert is.

I fleshed this out a bit more, here are the two scenarios

Gilbert plays in limited time in 2009, starts 2010 season (assuming he beats out Harris), plays up to 2011 (Junior, goes pro), or 2012 (graduates). We get 1-3 great years out of him.
Wood comes on campus spring 2010 and faces two scenarios: plays as a freshman and burns at least 2, maybe 3 years of his 4 years of eligibility as a backup. He gets Sherrod’d and starts as a senior. OR Wood redshirts, spends only one year as a backup (2011), and presumably starts 1-3 years.

OR

Gilbert redshirts, is a RS freshman in 2010, battles against Harris and is either a back up or a starter in his freshman year. Becomes the de facto starter in 2011, could go pro after 2012, or stay until he graduates in 2013.
Wood comes on campus in 2010, either is 3rd on the depth chart (unlikely) or redshirts. If he doesn’t redshirt, he graduates the same year as Gilbert. If he redshirts, he’s guaranteed at least one year as a starter, two if Gilbert leaves early.

Given these two scenarios, I’d actually prefer Gilbert to play this year. It gives us the biggest return on our investment in Wood. Of course, all of this presupposes there aren’t chances in the depth chart, no one gets injured, etc.

Overcomplicating Things - It is Simple

If Gilbert is better than Sherrod Harris right now – you develop the hell out of him. This is a possible national championship team and 2009 is the year. If Sherrod is better – he is the guy. I would not entertain any future thoughts – just the best scenario in 2009.

Yeah I dont know if redshirting him is the best idea or not.

My comment was more to the “not just garbage time” quip.

As I have said on here before if theres any chance that the game is still in question, I want all the players in that give us the best opportunity to reduce that chance to zero. At QB that unequivocally means Colt.

The goal this season, as it is every season, should be to win every single game. that goal supersedes any concerns about next year, or the next 5 years.

To me the question is how we use 'garbage' time.

If Gilbert is going to come in to hand off the ball a dozen times then I see no point in burning his redshirt. That is assuming he even beats out Harris. Either way, I really hope Mack changes his end-of-game philosophy and lets the second team actually run the offense rather than just trying to run out the clock to preserve the ‘dignity’ of the opposing team. I don’t see how keeping the score under 60 is any less deflating than going over 60. I think losing 40-0 is worse than losing 60-20. Ultimately, showing mercy and allowing some dignity to your opponent is taking out your first team and letting the opposing team continue to play meaningful snaps against a less experienced group of players. It has the added bonus of giving your younger players some real experience.

Prediction

GG plays in the first half of La.-Monroe game. And A LOT in the second half.

Running the ball only with a big lead

reduces the total time of the game. This is done not only to preserve dignity but also to reduce the chance of injuries.

Mack often talks about not running up the score...

I appreciate the point of reducing the chance of injuries, but then that is why you bring in your second and third teams. If you lose a first team guy but have no game-experienced replacements you are probably worse off than if a second or third stringer gets injured late in a game, especially at a position like QB. I guess I would rather see our back-up QB running a full offensive package later in an already decided game, than something like the Chiles experiment where you are leaving first half or third quarter possession underutilized by trying to field a second unit during the flow of a yet-to-be-determined game. I am not recommending we run our offense until the final whistle, but if we are up by 28 at the end of the third quarter I don’t see why we can’t run our offense for at least one or two series to get the back-ups some meaningful in-game experience.

That would assume that we ever just send all 2nd or 3rd string in

At positions like DE or DT or even the O line, the guys who are in at the end are the guys who at least rotate playing time. I don’t think you ever had a full squad of expendables on the field.

Obviously on defense you can't really just run out the clock...

No one who is good enough to be on the travel squad is truly ‘expendable’, but there are second and third string guys (depending on the position) who could perhaps help the team down the line much sooner by getting some live reps with real opponents. As we have seen with DJ Grant, practice is a potential injury minefield, I think I would rather see a guy getting real game experience go down to injury than a guy getting hurt in practice. Heck, the number of guys who go down in non-contact situations is pretty high. Football has risks and I think if Mack’s attitude was getting as many of his players on the field to see what they can do in a live situation then that is what he would do, if it makes him feel better by doing it in the second quarter then so be it, I just think that is more likely to put the game in jeopardy. If he feels otherwise, then I wish he would say that rather suggesting that not running up the score is the reason for running out the clock for a quarter or more at the end of a blowout.

GG

“Not just garbage time” meaning, starting the 2nd quarter at the very least. Sort of how they used John Chiles a couple of years back, except that totally did not work out.

If the game is close in the 2nd half, I probably don’t see them putting GG out there though.

Right.

I hope they never do that again.

Games get close in the second half because you take your foot off the throat in the first half. Chiles killed every offensive momentum we built up.

Especially when you have a QB the caliber of Colt, why would you ever want him off the field.

Hello?

A phrase no man wants to hear:
we may lose out on ever fully developing Wood

Wood will develop nicely given the right environment and some time really pushing him. He just has to keep his hat on and not be afraid when it comes time to push through the tunnel when it’s business time.

Okay, I’ll stop.

Wood’s just waiting to explode. It’ll be fun to hear about how well he does practicing in the bubble.

god forbid the commenting that will ensue should Wood lead us against the OSU Beavers. nt
I concur

Colt only comes out of the game if we’re up 20+. It’s his team, he EARNED it.

This quote...

…is a mirror image of what I’ve been saying since the beginning of August.

This is the 12th straight year I’ve gone to open fall practices and I’m more excited about this team than I have been any team in memory — even the 2005 team. Maybe because we’d lost five straight to OU back then, I was afraid to believe. I believe in this team already.

Seriously, I’ve been saying the same thing, and I suspect that many others have too. I think the last two sentences are the key for me. The sequential string of big wins in 2005 (first Ohio State, then OU, and finally Ohio State) removed any sense of concern over our team being able to convert talent into victories on the biggest stage.

I trust this team, and I trust our coaches. In 2005, it wasnt that cut-and-dry.

If it's a mirror image....

wouldn’t you be thinking that exact opposite?

You are correct...

…should have said “this mirrors what I’ve been saying.”

practice video

 I made a little video of the practice, the highlight plays, at http://spring.net/blog/ and offered up a full high def version to the BON, it includes a lot of pass plays and the injury play to DJ Grant. Don’t miss the last scene of Colt McCoy in the front of the bus.

This sounds great, but I can’t seem to find the video on your site?

same here, where is it?
same here...we should flag it as spam if he's lying
I have a copy of it.

Will post to the site in a FanShot

It's there

http://spring.net/blog/?p=226

thanks...didn't mean to sound like a douche..nt
Im excited ......

about the secondary. They have a chance to be better than the 05’ secondary. Chykie and Willams at the corner and Thomas and Gideon/Scott at safety! I almost cant contain myself! I cant wait until 10/17!

I was driving by the practice on my way to Wicked, and it look like they had moved it inside

Did they start it late? I was circling around 7 and it was just fans out there in some light rain.

(Hang on honey, we’re just gonna circle the practice field one more time, THEN I’ll drop you off at the theatre… )

We saw Wicked in New York last year. It was actually pretty good. :)

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