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Highlights this week include: a serious conversation about Twitter which exposes USC as a bunch of liars; some Venn diagram humor (hilarious!); we play "Hey, you know who's CRAZY?"; Twitter Tracker; LeGarrette Blount and the media's reaction thereto; the Undulating Curve of Media Hype; and the introduction of the Philosopher's Club, which will periodically feature quotes that I like for some reason or another.  Click on through for more!

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Twitter annoys me for many reasons.  The main one is that it's primarily a forum for unmitigated egotism.  Now, to different extents we all think that other people should be interested in our lives and thoughts.  If I didn't, I wouldn't write for Burnt Orange Nation.  My problem isn't with the egotism, but with the fact that Twitter has made it socially acceptable to shamelessly broadcast your egotism.

Philosopher

USC Safety Taylor Mays was asked about the Heisman race this year in the context of an article exploring why defensive players don't ever win, to which he hilariously responded: "McCoy is going to win," his reasoning being that Mr. McCoy is the only one of the big three quarterbacks yet to win. "Then they could have a little Heisman brunch." A hat tip where a hat tip is due. That's comic gold right there.

However, with respect to sports, Twitter has thrown on its head numerous conventions of the sports media complex in important ways.  For one, it has allowed athletes to communicate with fans directly, removing the sports writer from his position as mouthpiece from the locker room.  It's to the point where sportswriters are reporting on the quotes athletes give over Twitter (see, e.g., the Shawne Merriman fiasco this weekend).  And if sports fans can read the primary source material themselves and form their own conclusions, then the value of the sportswriter-as-mouthpiece diminishes.  However, due to the lockdown that big program coaches now have on their players' online activities (with the rare exception of someone like Rob Lunn, the former UConn lineman who blogged his senior season and rose to incredible and deserved popularity once I single-handedly  launched his career; you're welcome buddy!), this is more of a concern with professional sports.

The second aspect of sports media that Twitter has upended (or is in the process of upending, anyway) is the information lockdown that major programs try to maintain (none more so than Texas).  BON fave Bruce Feldman illustrated that point brilliantly when, about a week ago, he was at a Pete Carroll presser and first tweeted this at 12:23pm during the press conference: "odd moment at pete carroll presser: tj simers asks first question what do u have against mitch mustain? carroll not thrilled."  

Nothing special there, really.  I wouldn't have been thrilled with that question either if I were a head coach, even though it's pretty apparent that TJ Simers was joking.  But then, later that evening, Feldman posts this: "it's funny looking at the ASAP transcript #USC put out from the Carroll presser. The TJ Simers questions are listed as (indiscernable on...)".  So Feldman is effectively saying that the USC sports information department is censoring Simers' questions by saying they were "indiscernable" because he asked ones that they didn't like.  Is it true?  In short, absolutely.  Read the transcript and watch the video.  Not only are Simers' questions very much discernible, but Carroll's immediate annoyed reaction "I don't know why you'd even ask that" was also omitted from the transcript.  Scandal!  (Here's a tip, USC: if you're trying to pull a fast one in the written transcript, don't also release the unedited video.)

Of course, in the grand scheme of things, the fact that USC is censoring this type of thing isn't that big of a deal.  But the fact that Bruce Feldman was there, saw it happen, and decided to publicize it via his non-ESPN affiliated Twitter account does represent a crack in the facade of the college football information monopoly.  It's a small crack, but it's a crack.  And the fact that it came via Twitter is not insignificant.  Bruce Feldman has access to people and places that I do not have.  Generally, in order to maintain that access, there is some level of unspoken decorum that exists between USC and Bruce Feldman the ESPN reporter.  However, it is perhaps an unresolved issue as to whether that same decorum exists between USC and Bruce Feldman the Twitterer (for an example of the lack of Twitter decorum between colleagues, see this week's Twitter Tracker).  So while ESPN may not want to annoy USC with criticisms, Twitter sure doesn't care.  Maybe there's something to this Twitter nonsense after all.

Dufresne_vennI'm sure that you, much like me, have read every article about Texas that you could find all offseason.  (It helps to have dimecoverage as a robotic amalgamator of everything we'd ever want to read.)  And surely you've come across numerous article that rehash the same tired stories over and over again.  Some of those articles manage to fuse two or more of these banalities.

So to your right is a Venn Diagram on which you could graph these stories, if you were so geekily inclined.  I was inclinded to just that with one article that dimecoverage sent me the other day from the LA Times.  I don't read Chris Dufresne very often, but I have to give him a hearty congratulations for cramming all five hackneyed storylines into one article.  Believe it or not, it's actually quite well-written, which was sort of shocking and sad, in a way.  Roommates_venn_mediumThere are two lessons from this: (1) don't waste your talent on the banal, and (2) if you're going for trite, don't forget that Shipley and McCoy are roommates!  That circle looks awfully lonely down here.  You couldn't have fit that one in somewhere too?

Moving along, nothing bothers me more than the pervasive holier-than-thou posturing that is so commonplace among modern sportswriters. This is far more pervasive among older baseball writers but college football is, much like baseball, a sport that mythologizes its past far more than the NFL or the NBA.  It's probably not a coincidence that my two favorite sports are MLB and college football; I love the mythology of it all.  But to me there's a distinctly negative side effect to the worship of all that sepia-toned history, and it's that some of us cling too strongly to the supposed glory of the past. Every time a player or coach does something controversial, the reaction is often framed by the damage it supposedly does to the sport rather than the damage done by the act itself.  Because of this, we rarely get reactions to controversial events; we get overreactions.

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Bruce Feldman: "Mike Lupica sez Pete Carroll's team is "underachieving" Right, cause Carroll's the one who's been livin off his rep & mailin it in 4 years."

Which of course brings me to the case of LeGarrette Blount.  I watched what happened live and my first thought was "How many games is he going to get suspended?"  I concluded 1, but then he tried to attack Boise State fans in the stands that were mercilessly taunting him as he walked by.  He didn't make it into the crowd nor did he touch anyone at that point, but I saw so many of his Oregon teammates look disgusted with his actions that I thought the suspension would rise because he had to regain the respect of the locker room.  But then the media got a hold of it and, well, here's some typical holier-than-thou nonsense from Jay Mariotti: "When the season's first national telecast explodes into a hideous episode, I don't like civility's chances in this day and age....To be blunt, Blount should have been arrested on the spot and prosecuted. "  Nice pun, asshole.

Anyway, the mainstream media aren't the only ones who did this of course.  Everyone on Addicted to Quack (our  sister Oregon blog) was in the heat of the moment calling for him to be kicked off the team.  Virtually everyone on the open BON thread was calling for it as well.  And in response to all of this "Oh my god, why won't someone think of the CHILDREN?!?!" wailing from every corner, Oregon did what it felt it had to do and suspended Blount for the rest of his senior year.  Which is insane.  Texas players have gotten 3 game suspensions for DWIs!  Oklahoma did not revoke the scholarship offer of a recruit who is facing felony charges.  Oregon itself accepted a transfer from a guy kicked off of Nebraska for assault and other violations of team rules!

Hey, You Know Who's CRAZY?

Jason Whitlock.  Since Saturday, he's pretty much written non-stop about his new-found yet nevertheless undying love for Blaine Gabbert.  Whitlock is funny and engaging most of the time.  But he's also super sanctimonious (speaking of...) and he's undoubtedly crazy.  I'd stil trade Kirk Bohls for him any day of the week and twice on Saturday.

This dude let his emotions get the best of him (immediately following a game predicated on violence and aggression, mind you), and he punched one other dude who came up to him and taunted him (rumors are currently circulating that the BSU player either asked him a pointed question about his dead relative or flung the N-word around) and then, after some idiots in the crowd were probably saying even worse things, he tried and failed to get in a fight with them.  This all made him look very bad and, by extension, reflected somewhat poorly on Oregon.  That's what he did and that's all he did.  

It frustrates me that anyone thinks that this is worth a year-long suspension.  But I understand why.  It's a combination of the fact that it happened on national television and the eagerness of holier-than-thou bloviators to wax rhapsodical about the state of our fair game and how modern society just doesn't appreciate what we have anymore.  If this event had happened at a closed practice, would Blount have been suspended at all? Maybe one game?  What if Blount had been playing for a less high profile team like Washington State and the game hadn't been on ESPN.  Would fewer commentators have talked about it, leading to less uproar and a shorter suspension?

I think most of us would agree that the pervasiveness of the images we saw certainly affected how the situation with his suspension played out.  And if that's the case, then how is that fair?  If he should be punished for what he did rather than which cameras were on him when he did it, then when the fact that there are cameras on him at the time affects how he is punished, how can it possibly be a fair punishment?  Furthermore, there's a reason that civilized criminal justice systems build in some time and process in between a crime and a trial/punishment: it allows tempers to cool and reason to take over.  I realize this isn't under the purview of the criminal justice system, but the principles are universal: don't go to the grocery store hungry and don't punish people while you're mad.

More than anything, LeGarrette Blount should be rationally punished for exactly what he did to Byron Hout that night rather than for what the sanctimonious media believes he did to their sepia-toned memories of the college football of yesteryear.  Now, reasonable people may certainly disagree about how long such a punishment should be.  I don't mean to be sanctimonious myself; you may think a one year suspension is reasonable for this exactly what happened that night and that's fine, but I think most would agree that LeGarrette Blount was punished for more than just the events of that night.  And for that the blame must lay at the feet of much of the mainstream media and fans themselves.

In the interest of fairness, some media members do not fall into this wide swath of sanctimony.  Here are three articles that are far more reasoned than the usual drivel, and which fall in with my line of thinking:

Bud Withers of the Seattle Times

Andrea Adelson of the Orlando Sentinel

Dave Zirin of Nation and the Huffington Post

And finally, without further ado but with apologies to Adam Sternbergh and New York Magazine, I present the Undulating Curve of Media Hype.  If you can't read it, click it for a full-size version.

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Blount

When asked about his draft status, some NFL scout said that he was finished. (Now, if that actually happens, who knows.) This from a league that allowed Pac Jones to continue playing, numerous players have off-field legal issues, etc. What a joke. Blount was would fit right in.

The player from Boise should have been reprimanded, at the very least. Shame on Chris Petersen.

This quote from the Dufresne article
McCoy was a redshirt freshman standing next to quarterback Vince Young on the Rose Bowl sidelines in January 2006 when, in the climactic plot twist to one of college football’s all-time page-turners, Texas stopped USC on fourth and two with two minutes left in the Bowl Championship Series title game.

The Longhorns trailed, 38-33.

“I was in the huddle and the coaches were telling him the play before he runs out,” McCoy recalled. "I’m there with the clipboard, writing down the plays. Vince said, ‘Hey, here we go; it’s time to roll.’ "

McCoy said Young then looked him square in the eye and said: “You’ll be in this position some day. Do what I do.”

Is why I will always love VY.

That is so awesome. In that kind of environment, Vince was able to make two prophecies.

1) I will win this game.
2) Colt will one day have the chance to lead a NC winning drive.

I hope #2 comes true.

Yes, the standards on live television are different than IRL

This is a surprise because… why?

The more public your spectacle, the more public your punishment should and will be. That hasn’t changed since the dawn of humanity.

Wow, poor player, suspended for a whole year for punching someone in the face on live television! I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise.

This misses the point.

You’re seem to be saying that if he had done the same thing (i.e. punched Byron Hout in the face) behind closed doors, he should have been suspended fewer games? For doing the exact same thing?

I would never want you on a jury.

Perhaps not entirely wrong

BZ, while I understand that the same crime should warrant the same punishment under different contexts, I think that there is something to be said here for the fact that Blount threw the punch in his Oregon uniform while representing his university on the road and on the air. The comparisons with the justice system are flawed because the justice system (in theory, but we all know about politicking) is ideally devoid of ulterior motives. In this case, Oregon could have looked at the situation and decided that Blount simply wasn’t worth the risk to the program’s image, and that’s a completely valid reason for a private institution (athletic departments are essentially businesses) to excommunicate him. I would bet that this is not the first time that Blount has exhibited a temper like this, and if that’s true, then UO has even more reason to doubt that this sort of thing won’t happen again.

If I swear at a co-worker or break all of his pencils or something, it’s likely that I’ll be docked some pay or given anger management seminars or something. If I blow up on another firm’s employee at some kind of high-profile meeting, though, my ass likely won’t make it into the hallway with my job. The damage in this case that Blount has to account for is not the damage he did to the public at large, but the damage he did to UO’s image. That’s why you can’t expect the context not to matter. That probably has to do with why the NFL scout claims they won’t touch him.

Just a thought.

True. Beat your significant other in private (or any other crime) and it doesn’t really count. Do it in public…

NFL standards are very high.

That's the standard in life

If I’m representing a firm client in court and punch a guy – I will immediately be fired. If I’m walking down the street and punch someone, I might not be.

Just because it's commonplace doesn't make it right.

Regardless, we’re getting off of my point here. My point was not about the public/private distinction. That was just a way to illustrate my point that he should be punished for what he did, not what holier-than-thou bloviators think he did to damage the reputation of the sport itself.

This was a point about the media, not about Oregon’s decision to suspend him.

Well you did say...

… that he didn’t deserve to be suspended for the year. I was just offering a reason why he might.

The media didn’t bother me too much. I mean I (personally, and without reading anything) didn’t find anything at all interesting about that game until Blount KTFO’d that guy, and that was the point that a lot of articles made – That the punch was taking away from an important win by Boise (I’ll argue with that all day, Oregon looked like garbage). I think that Blount (who famously predicted an ass whoopin’) going absolutely batshit crazy was definitely more exciting than watching Boise f’in State win a game with defense.

It's not that the media wrote about it.

It’s a story and I agree that it was the only exciting thing about that terrible mess of a game. It’s about how sanctimonious many members of the media get about it. It’s a larger point I had that really got lost in all of this because some many people disagree with me about this particular instance.

Anyone want to talk about Twitter?

I have literally never wanted to talk about Twitter

But I will shut up for the sake of this thread.

“I have literally never wanted to talk about Twitter.”

I’ll second that. :-)

distinction

These two issues are closely related, but I think this is what BZ is trying to say:

If we are just talking about punishing a kid – and that is the only person whose interests we need to take into account, as in the criminal justice context – the punishment should fit the crime. There may be mitigating circumstances that could affect the punishment (like if the kid had done it before), but whether or not he happened to be filmed while doing the deed should not factor into the punishment.

The point that others have made above is that in Blount’s situation, there are TWO interests to take into account – Blount’s and the Ducks’. Since Blount was representing Oregon on national television, and Oregon has an interest in upholding its reputation, Oregon may be justified in imposing a harsher punishment because Blount did what he did so publicly.

Short version = if this was only about Blount, just punish him for what he did. When Oregon’s interests are taken into account too, they may be justified in considering public perception.

Absolutely.

And my problem was never with Oregon taking into account its own reputation. It may have appeared that way because the point I was trying to make was close to that, but it wasn’t that. I was trying to make a larger point about the sanctimony of the media and how it affects sports like college football. I used a controversial topic fresh in everyone’s minds to make that point and I got a little too bogged down in the details of that topic rather than the larger point. Everyone wanted to talk about the controversial topic rather than the larger point, and so this conversation devolved into one having nothing to do with the intention of the post or the media itself, which is the topic of the column.

I hear you

The crazy thing to me, and maybe this deserves some analysis, is which incidents get picked up and run with by the holier-than-thou-media and which ones are forgotten, and why.

Like, Oregon is pressured by public perception and suspends Blount for a year for punching a kid in the heat of battle. Justin Chaisson kidnaps and almost murders his ex, faces felony charges, but gets his scholarship from OU, who presumably is now feeding and channeling his killer instinct (couldn’t resist). Sure this made news, but where is the outrage that OU has done nothing? Where are the Jay Mariottis now? Maybe its just that OU has no reputation as an upstanding program to uphold, but still, if the media is going to be so indignant about the Blount incident, they should still be going nuts about Chaisson.

BZ

Are you saying that your law firm would react the same if you threw a punch at someone at a bar and if you threw a punch at someone in the courtroom?

That's not the same analogy.

The same analogy would be whether I threw a punch at one of my associates in the office or whether I did it in front of other people. Would they react differently? Probably. But they would be harsher on me not because of what I did but because they wanted to salvage their own reputation. If no one saw it, their reputation isn’t hurt. That’s not fair to me, personally, because I did the exact same thing.

Now, I understand the difference here and why Oregon might feel it needs to be treated differently. I’m merely using this as an example to get at my larger point about the media. I should have never freaking mentioned TV.

I would say that it is fair to you

Because there are two offenses in the public case, the offense to the person you hit, and then the offense to the people’s reputation you hurt while doing it in public while representing some organization. Brands and reputation have value, and doing something like that in public harms a brand.

If I’m paid by Disney to be dressed up as Snow White and I go around Disney World kicking kids instead of being nice, I’m harming Disney’s brand as well as the kids.

If I dress up as Snow White in my apartment, and run around the neighborhood doing the same thing, then it is different, because I’m not THE Snow White, I’m just some crazy guy in a Snow White costume.

Update!

Bruce Feldman has (as of this morning) deleted his Twitter posts about the USC press conference. Didn’t mean to get you in trouble with your corporate overlords, Bruce!

Then shame on Bruce Feldman, as well. He either caved in corporate overlords or the USC pr machine. Journalists should do their job.

CRAZY

Does anyone know another instance where a school has censored a PRESS CONFERENCE??? I.e., censored the chapions of free speech? Or a time where a media giant like ESPN has allowed itself to be censored without going apeshit? What would be happening now if a school more out of favor with the media had done this? This just boggles my mind. I understand wanting to maintain inside access, but come on.

ESPN isn't being censored. Bruce Feldman is.

I know nothing about this situation other than what I’ve read above, but it appears nothing Feldman wrote for ESPN has been removed. Only his tweets have been affected. I would imagine those tweets are the domain of Bruce Feldman the individual, not ESPN.

who pressured him to remove it

You don’t think his employer had anything to do with it?

My guess is that Bruce removed it himself.

Because he’s had the whole Mike Lupica flap the last couple of days. Didn’t want to get in any more trouble.

Chris Dufresne

He forgot that Bradford and McCoy are BFFs.

Blount

Was it wrong to take in account the cumulative actions of Blount then add that to his complete melt down at the end of the game, regardless of what anyone said or wrote after the fact?

Not for me to say.

Oregon can do whatever they want to do and they have more information than I do. If he was someone who repeatedly violated team rules and had severe behavioral problems to where he was a distraction to the team, etc. then I don’t think anyone could say that Oregon shouldn’t have done that.

I don’t care about the actual punishment or if it stemmed from past behavior plus this behavior (I personally thought it was steep, but reasonable people can disagree). My problem, however, is with the idea that he should be punished more severely because of some mythical damage he has done to the sport. In this instance, he didn’t do anything but punch a guy in the face. It was a terrible thing to do, but he’s being punished for more than that.

It is not the mythical damage to the sport

it is the actual damage he did to Oregon’s reputation by doing it on live TV.

I think the conjecture on the interwebs about what the BSU player said is pure message board, telephone game fiction.

Reading his lips, it seemed like he just got done saying, “How’s that ass whoopin?!?” in response to Blount stating over and over pre-game that BSU was gonna get an ass whoopin. I’d put good money on it that is EXACTLY what the BSU guy said. Still a taunt and he still deserved to get punched in the face (although he shouldn’t have).

To steal from Chris Rock….. “I’m not sayin’ LaGarrette shoulda punched him….. but I understand.”

Yeah, I have no idea what he said.

I thought that if the Chicago Sun-Times could publish the speculation, so could I.

Miami vs Florida International http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR4l0vMSrlc

This brawl was, by far, the most embarrassing moment in college football that I have ever seen. It was much worse than a single cheap shot and some yelling at fans. These players were not suspended the whole year. The media never called for such a ridiculous punishment. People’s heads were literally stomped on, and the punishment wasn’t as bad. I believe it was Brandon Meriweather (#19) that is caught repeatedly stomping someone, and he makes millions in the NFL. He wasn’t even one of the five Miami players to be ejected from the game. If I was Blount, I would leave Oregon and sign with the new football league just created. Any playing time on any team is better than sitting an entire year.

Excellent example.

If it had been 40 players on the field all doing exactly what Blount was doing at the exact same time, would anyone have been suspended for a year? I highly doubt it.

Because in that case...

… the damage to UO’s image from losing every game for the entire year after a big fight would make it even worse than if they just suspended half the team for a game and moved on. If half of my highly skilled and difficult to replace staff gets into a brawl at work, I can’t fire them all, I just have to find some other way to handle it. Unity retreat, anyone?

Fine, what about 10 people?

Where do you draw the line? How many people have to be in a brawl before you decide that no one gets their football careers ruined?

That's why they pay managers so well.

Sure it’s not fair to the 10 people who got into a brawl and got kicked off the team when the 11 who do it just get suspended, but once they break whatever code of conduct applies here, then the manager, coach, AD, or whoever is judge and jury. This moral dilemma doesn’t bother me because, in the end, you shouldn’t expect to keep your job if you punch somebody anyway. Consider yourself lucky if 30 people join you.

FWIW

per Wikipedia

Miami indefinitely suspended three players: Anthony Reddick, Brandon Merriweather & James Bryant. Reddick’s player bio indicates that he missed five games after the incident. Merriweather’s and Bryant’s player bio’s don’t indicate that either played in the 2006 season at all. Bryant was a junior at the time and transferred to Louisville.

Miami also enacted a “zero-tolerance” policy stating that any player involved in a fight would be suspended for the remainder of the season and the possibility of dismissal.

FIU dismissed two players, Marshall McDuffie & Chris Smith, from their team but allowed them to stay on scholarship. Neither played again; McDuffie was a Junior and is listed as a redshirt for his senior season.

There is also speculation that Coker’s comments after the incident and subsequent media criticism of those comments and the light punishment contributed to his being fired at the end of the season.

From my perspective

Blount got what he deserved. I was one of those that was quick to judge and say he should get a year, but after reviewing all the facts (which completely supports your idea), I still believe he should have gotten the full year suspension.

1st – My justification for this is the fact that he’s been a problem in the past. This isn’t his first issue.
2nd – he provoked BSU prior to the game with his “They deserve an ass whoopin’” comment.
3rd – regardless of what the BSU player said (and if he said what is circulating, he’s dispicable), the fact is, the player was turned away from Blount and was hit in a chickenshit manner. Coming from someone who has been hit in that way, I can attest to just how chickenshit that is.
4th – he continued his tirade after the fact and tried to release his anger on paying customers. If it was just Hout that he went after, I would totally agree with you that a 1-3 game suspension is warranted. But that’s not the case.

Had Oregon decided that a 5-6 game suspension was warranted, I would not have protested because they know far more about these things than I will ever dream of knowing. That’s why those administrators get paid a lot more than I do. However, I still don’t disagree with the full season.

Just one man’s opinion.

Let me try again

Questions actually related to the topic (I think):
Did Blount receive his suspension because of the media’s overreaction to the damage caused to “the sport”?
I don’t think so. Coaches should know that there will always be some kind of media overreaction to anything like this, and they should be able to make the right choice. As detailed in other comments, I believe that Oregon chose to suspend Blount not because of the damage to some abstract “-ness” of college football, but because of the damage to UO’s image. As to whether the media overreacted…

Does the media, in general, really rise up “Took ’er Jairbs!”-style to defend college football’s historical sanctity in cases like this?
I think that’s pretty accurate. The question is whether the real reason that this happens is because the writers are truly enraged by the attack on the noble nature of amateur competition, or simply because they’re very lazy and it’s much easier to hammer out a few paragraphs about epic tails of historic sportsmanship and winning one for the gipper than it is to take a measured stance on the subject.
Given the fact that BZ can find so much at fault with the media each week that he writes one of our longer recurring columns about it, I’m going to have to go with lazy. They probably just see blood in the water and know that the punch is all that’s important about the game and then try and put it against the most gallant and poetic backdrop they can, since it “sounds” like good writing and 90% of people never actually consider what they’re reading anyway.

Does having a Twitter make you an asshole?
Only if you’re a football coach and you’re tweeting about loving Beyonce’s new song at 6:30 in the morning. Good God, and I thought that cocaine lost it’s popularity in the 80’s. While I would never wish Barry Switzer on the college football world again, it would be nice to read his Twitter page during recruiting season.

Re: Twitter again

Apparently Twitter does not make assholes, it merely attracts them.

In this case, though, I think it works.

In many ways, I was hoping Blount would not receive a year suspension

But I had a bad feeling he would. He’s had past issues and not only did he punch a player, he flipped out on fans and struggled against security and his own players. All this was live on national TV, and he was the only one doing it. I knew the reaction would be swift on this guy.

Is it fair? Maybe not. As someone talked about above, the Miami-Florida International brawl was 100 times worse, and nobody got the ax for the entire year. This is because while they replayed it over and over, you never can focus on one guy. In Blount’s case, he was busted.

Personally, I think he should have gotten an indefinite suspension, with a real possibility of returning if he does certain things (practice hard, apologize, do community service, or whatever the Ducks coach wants). I thought flat out suspending him for the whole year was a bit much. However, it happened on national TV, and with the media freaking out over the whole issue, Oregon wanted to put the matter to rest as quickly as possible. Hard to blame Oregon too much, but I do think the punishment was a little too severe.

Prior suspension

One fact that no one on this thread is mentioning is the fact that Blount had already been suspended earlier this year for an undefined “failure to fulfill team obligations,” apparently for missing a bunch of team workouts.

It seems plausible to me that Blount was suspended for the year, at least in part, for the betterment of the team and not exclusively for the media-driven reasons discussed here. If Blount’s punch fit into an already-known pattern of behavior, keeping him as an active member of the team might have proven too problematic for the Ducks to have as successful a season as possible. Perhaps Kelly made the calculation that, at this point, Oregon has a chance to have a better record without Blount than with, despite his proven on-field talent.

And that would be an absolutely reasonable thing for Kelly to do.

I muddled up my larger point with talk about UO and Blount, but Oregon has every right to suspend him if his mere presence is detrimental to the team.

The Only One Holier Than Hou is You, billyzane

Seriously, man, get over it. HE ASSAULTED SOMEONE. People go to JAIL for that. Getting tossed off the team is NOTHING compared to what would have happened to his sorry ass had he done that at a bar in front of a million witnesses. And his excuse? “But, but, but, he taunted me!” Then taunt him back, you big baby!

P.S. And Yes, Twittering and telling everyone about it nonstop does, in fact, make you an asshole. Just sayin’.

Well someone didn't actually read the article!

See up there where I said that reasonable people can disagree about what length of suspension is appropriate, and that my only complaints were with (i) the media’s anachronistic reaction to what happened, and (ii) the fact that this may have played a part in how long Blount was suspended? Did you see that? No? Well, let me go ahead and repost it:

Now, reasonable people may certainly disagree about how long such a punishment should be. I don’t mean to be sanctimonious myself; you may think a one year suspension is reasonable for this exactly what happened that night and that’s fine, but I think most would agree that LeGarrette Blount was punished for more than just the events of that night.
Reading is FUNdamental.

I applaud your restraint here BZ! That P.S. just screams for a zinger...n/t
Yeah, I was kinda hoping for a BZ takedown.

But I guess it’s for the best since it seems some have decided to eschew discussing his thesis in order to tackle the easy target – LeGarrette Blount.

A little Kumbaya as PB would say.

It was so poorly phrased, I couldn't tell if the P.S. called me an assholde or not.

I have never twittered and therefore have never told anyone about anything I have twittered, so I don’t know if he’s gotten his facts confused (which he clearly did in the first part of the comment) or if he just likes insulting random twitterers who have nothing to do with this conversation.

All told, I thought it best to leave it be. The comment speaks for itself.

Where did this come from IAJB?

Let’s keep our cool, even if you take issue with something someone said. And let’s be sure we’re responding to something actually said, as well.

Kumbaya.

Blount is being punished because his punch connected

If he had missed Hout, it wouldn’t have been as big a deal. But that was a mean right, and that is why it become such a big deal.

Hout should definitely be punished too. He was seriously cruisin’ for the bruisin’. I’m not trying to justify the assault—Blount was clearly wrong and deserves to be punished. But, it was a very foreseeable outcome that Blount would react to Hout’s tapping him on the pads and talking smack in his face while walking off the field.

I feel that Oregon’s punishment is too severe. Blount immediately apologized. I just hate to see a guy’s whole career ruined for an immature reaction to something so stupid as trash talk. Let’s face it, NCAA football is the NFL’s minor league.

We see baseball players rush the mound almost weekly—they aren’t thrown into the netherworld and facing a life suspension. Let’s not even talk about Hockey players.

I hope that Oregon reconsiders and provides a more appropriate punishment like 5 games.

Now that this is an all-Blount thread . . .

. . . I had another question: can anyone remember the last time they saw someone cold-cock someone else on a college football field like that?

I’m not talking about fights that grow out of hand (like Miami-FIU) where there might be punches thrown as a fight progresses. I mean, suddenly, out of the blue, BAM!, like what we saw Thursday.

All I can come up with is Woody Hayes, and we all know that didn’t turn out so well for ol’ Woody. Surely there are better examples during the 30 years since?

In 2003 a Nebraska player crushed a Mizzou fan

Kellen Huston. Fans were rushing the field, and this one got KTFO’d.

Result: 1 game suspension.

Wow!

I don’t remember that one at all…I guess in six years I won’t remember Blount either. And all he got was a 1-f*ing-game suspension? That’s almost Stoopsian in its douchebaggy criminality! Also brings up some potential racial elements that I won’t go into, but beyond that I think hitting a fan is way, way more of a gross indignity to the game than punking an opposing player for taunting you.

Awesome

1 game suspension seems fair, if you take the field and charge the opposing player, he should have the opportunity to defend himself.

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