For someone with more Xs and Os football knowledge than I . . .
. . . please explain why don’t we see this more often?
It’s an extremely rare formation, but it strikes me as one that could be used more frequently as a great way to mix things up. Looking at the screen shot above, it appears Michigan has been caught by surprise (at least two players looking around at the moment the ball is being snapped), which I would expect to be a typical reaction. Is there some greater risk with this particular gadget play which prevents it from being used more frequently? And by frequently, I only mean a handful of times a season — I expect most teams would never use it at all over the course of a season.
The usual concern with the swinging gate is having your QB Kindled
It’s a good short yardage play, particularly considering the number of blockers compared to the number of defenders within five yards. That’s balanced against having a guy with the quickness of E. Acho or Kindle cover 4-5 yards in the time the QB can make the pass.
With nothing to really read the QB will probably get a pass off but he’ll be lit up like Vegas at Christmas, or he’ll throw on the run like VY did in a titans game a few years back; avoid the hit but miss the throw.
In other words, too much risk for too little reward?
I’m reading that as: It’s a gadget play that works better for short yardage, not big plays. You might risk a QB being Kindled if the reward was a 60-yard TD, but since the reward is more likely to be a five-to-ten yard gain, there are probably less risky ways to accomplish the goal.
It’s a cool play, and great thing to have around for a rainy day, but the stakes on the yardage gained have to be very high to call a play that may not do much better than a WR screen.
Let's see which top 10 teams will fall this week.
cj43 - September 26, 2009
Too many games to follow!
I’m feeling overwhelmed, not sure which not watch right now.
hornbone - September 26, 2009
not sure which *to watch
hornbone - September 26, 2009
They will usually filter themselves out....
Give it till halftime to see which games might be close or upsets.
cj43 - September 26, 2009
Fresno State kicks field goal..
Cincinnati up 7-3 on Fresno State.
cj43 - September 26, 2009
LSU up 7-0 early on interception return for touchdown.
cj43 - September 26, 2009
Make that 6-0..they failed on the PAT
cj43 - September 26, 2009
Wow, that FSU player got rocked and fumbled the ball.
South Florida’s playing tough.
hornbone - September 26, 2009
Touchdown Miss State. up 7-6 over LSU
LSU defense looking soft. Getting the ball run up their throat.
cj43 - September 26, 2009
Every week, Big Ten on ESPN
Often, both early games are Big Ten. And, they’ve got a network.
Big 12 has really dropped the ball on the network thing. Gives SEC and Big Ten huge edges in national recruiting and perception for poll voters.
edsp - September 26, 2009
FSU down to South Florida 14-0. Man is this a Jeckyl and Hyde team or what??
patienthornsfan - September 26, 2009
Maybe that jackass from the Cleveland Plain-Dealer will vote USF #2 next week
Hopkins Horn - September 26, 2009
IU hanging tough with...
Swinging gate?
TXStampede - September 26, 2009
For someone with more Xs and Os football knowledge than I . . .
. . . please explain why don’t we see this more often?
It’s an extremely rare formation, but it strikes me as one that could be used more frequently as a great way to mix things up. Looking at the screen shot above, it appears Michigan has been caught by surprise (at least two players looking around at the moment the ball is being snapped), which I would expect to be a typical reaction. Is there some greater risk with this particular gadget play which prevents it from being used more frequently? And by frequently, I only mean a handful of times a season — I expect most teams would never use it at all over the course of a season.
Hopkins Horn - September 26, 2009
The usual concern with the swinging gate is having your QB Kindled
It’s a good short yardage play, particularly considering the number of blockers compared to the number of defenders within five yards. That’s balanced against having a guy with the quickness of E. Acho or Kindle cover 4-5 yards in the time the QB can make the pass.
With nothing to really read the QB will probably get a pass off but he’ll be lit up like Vegas at Christmas, or he’ll throw on the run like VY did in a titans game a few years back; avoid the hit but miss the throw.
learned hand - September 26, 2009
In other words, too much risk for too little reward?
I’m reading that as: It’s a gadget play that works better for short yardage, not big plays. You might risk a QB being Kindled if the reward was a 60-yard TD, but since the reward is more likely to be a five-to-ten yard gain, there are probably less risky ways to accomplish the goal.
Hopkins Horn - September 26, 2009
Right, the risks just don't justify the reward
It’s a cool play, and great thing to have around for a rainy day, but the stakes on the yardage gained have to be very high to call a play that may not do much better than a WR screen.
learned hand - September 26, 2009
What's with all the home teams wearing white jerseys?
Florida State? Mississippi State? Cincy?
Hopkins Horn - September 26, 2009
Miss State touchdown...Down 23-21 now..
Possible top 10 upset..
cj43 - September 26, 2009
LSU misses 19-yd FG attempt.. ~4:00 left in third
gwh65 - September 26, 2009
LSU
does not deserve its lofty ranking
andmyster - September 26, 2009
KU game running long?
I just know this game is going to run past 2:30 and I am going to miss the first part of the UT game. Damn.
cj43 - September 26, 2009
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