Even though the 2012 Texas football season won't kick off for about nine months (237 days, to be exact) and spring football won't start for another month and a half, it's never too early to start talking about next season, no matter how far away it is.
If the narrative in 2011 focused on the process at the expense of setting aside concerns about the number of games in the win column at the end of the year, the 2012 narrative will throw away that emphasis on the process and return to to the typical Texas standard of a 10-win season, conference championship, and BCS bowl game.
However, besides a little luck, to make that leap the Longhorns will have to find some answers for several offseason storylines.
There's no question that evaluating the body of work from Ash this season only using statistics -- particularly his touchdown-to-interception ratio -- leaves a great deal to be desired, caveats about his status as a true freshman and the lack of repetitions throughout the spring and summer aside.
For the Longhorns to make the jump to what appears to be a SEC-type of attack featuring a strong running game and elite defense will necessarily require Ash to avoid turnovers. Reserve the right to punt, as Bryan Harsin likes to say.

The Holiday Bowl certainly represented a major step forward for Ash in that regard, as he did not throw any passes that were even close to becoming interceptions and generally showed a better awareness for when to take calculated risks and when to simply admit defeat and live for another down by throwing the football away.
While there remain very real and pressing questions about whether Ash can be the quarterback to lead Texas to a shot at competing for a national championship, it's clear that the other pieces are starting to fall into place and that there were some flashes of the talent that could allow Ash to be that guy. There were also some flashes that indicated that he may not be able to make the leap, now or ever.
Still, it's reasonable to predict some growth over the spring and the increase in repetitions for him during that time should pay dividends. At the very least, the spring game should provide a snapshot that adds to the data points generated by the 2011 season to provide some more perspective about the quarterback that Ash can or cannot become.
Though he probably does not deserve the same level of consideration for offensive MVP in 2011 as he did in 2010, departing kicker Justin Tucker was unquestionably a major part of the Texas team both seasons, working as the kick-off specialist, place-kicker, and punter.
Given that the coaches would have liked to decrease the pressure on Tucker and the wear on his leg by using another player for at least one of those jobs, it's clear that the players who will be asked to contribute there in 2012 either weren't on campus or simply weren't ready in 2011.
In order of importance, the place-kicking duties could come down to a competition between preferred walk-on Ben Pruitt, an Army All-American last season, and Will Russ, the scholarship from the 2010 class who has yet to make his mark on the 40 Acres. It appears that Pruitt is the odds-on favorite, with incoming scholarship kicker Nick Jordan, an Army All-American this season, more of a longshot. Mack Brown did appear to leave the door open for Jordan to at least have a chance to win the competition, however.
In terms of kickoff duties, Russ has been working there in competition with Pruitt. If there's an area where Jordan could make an immediate impact, it is likely as the kickoff specialist, though at the Army game he was inconsistent, sometimes driving the ball deep into the endzone and with good height, at other times failing to achieve both height and distance.
At punter, Russ will be working to improve his consistency there in an attempt to win the job, with Brown also indicating that David Ash will get a look there, although that would hopefully only be for emergency purposes and to use strategically as a pooch punter on the opponent's side of the field. Recruitocosm also broke the news the other day that Highland Park punter Nick Rose will be a preferred walk-on next season, though he will be enrolling in the fall and therefore have a limited opportunity to take control of the position.
There's more uncertainty in the kicking game going into 2012 then there has been in years and though the talent on campus in the fall will be pretty well regarded as far as evaluating kickers is concerned, all are still completely unproven.
One of the underrated storylines of the 2011 season was Cody Johnson's ability to make the transition from short-yardage tailback to fullback, a perhaps overdue move that nonetheless carried with it no assurances that the senior back would show either an aptitude or willingness to play the position.
Fortunately for Texas, Johnson stepped into a leadership role and selflessly showed both an aptitude and a willingness to do the dirty work as a lead blocker. And while he struggled some during the early part of the season, Johnson developed enough throughout the year that he became a major asset and put enough on film to pique the interest of NFL scouts and give himself a strong chance to play at the next level.
If there's a negative, it's that Johnson emerged to the extent that he won't be easy to replace next season. With Jamison Berryhill foregoing his senior season as a result of health concerns, Texas is left with a gaping void at the fullback position that doesn't have a proven answer.
Ryan Roberson is the top candidate to step into the position, but he was inconsistent in limited looks and will need to make serious improvement to provide similar production to Johnson. For what it's worth -- likely little -- Mack Brown did say that Roberson practiced well in preparation for the Holiday Bowl. The only other serious option at this point seems to be Chet Moss, who spent some time at fullback last fall, but was not with the team in San Diego for undisclosed personal reasons.
Before that trip, Harsin indicated that he may use Joe Bergeron and Malcolm Brown as blockers at times, likely on sweeps out of pro set or Diamond formation looks, but he did shoot down the idea that Bergeron would make a full-time transition to the position, as he has become too valuable now at running back.
The other potential option is to use an H-back as a lead blocker, a tactic that Stanford employed successfully last season. Of those players, it appears that Barrett Matthews would be the best fit -- it's a position he worked at some in preparation for the 2010 season and his lack of size as an in-line blocker has always been a major hindrance, but he is the perfect size for a fullback and has always been known as a willing and able blocker.
Throughout the recent history of Texas football, losing multi-year starters and future NFL players like Keenan Robinson and Emmanuel Acho would be nearly catastrophic. After all, they were the top two tacklers on the team by a significant margin, as well as both ranking in the top four on the team in tackles for loss. More than that, defensive coordinator Manny Diaz trusted them to change plays at the line of scrimmage at the last second, a major boon for a coordinator who always likes to have the last say in the pre-snap chess match.
The good news is that depth at the linebacker position has never been better during the Mack Brown era. So while there is a certain amount of projection that goes into the assessment of the unit in 2012, the outlook is overwhelmingly positive. In fact, as much as Keenan Robinson improved in the middle late in the season taking on blockers, Steve Edmond should be an immediate improvement there after flashing in limited snaps as a freshman. The key with Edmond, as always, will be to keep his weight in the current 260-pound range. Expect Bennie Wylie to make him his personal project.
On the outside, Jordan Hicks showed tremendous improvement in the Holiday Bowl after a mediocre season hampered by a hamstring injury and appears ready to fulfill his five-star potential, while Demarco Cobbs showed off his acceleration chasing down Zach Maynard and will provide Manny Diaz the versatility to stick with a 4-3 front against spread offenses.
By the end of the season, it still seems like a stretch to say this group will be better than the 2011 unit, but it's not out of the question to achieve similar production, albeit in a slightly different manner. The key could be whether Edmond or Hicks can step up to the extent that Diaz will trust them to make last-second changes to the defense to consistently keep the Longhorn defense one step ahead of opposing offenses.
The 800 yards gained over two weeks against Kansas and Texas Tech represented substantive improvements over what the 2010 offense could have achieved against similar competition, but the results were much more varied against competition that didn't rank among the worst in the country.
Texas will have to replace only one starter along a line that featured a true freshman, redshirt sophomore, redshirt freshman, and sophomore at the other four line positions. Simply the increase in experience and another offseason to work with Bennie Wylie and offensive line coach Stacy Searels should provide improvements, especially when considering that offensive success and the number of starts along the line have a high correlation.
After missing the 2011 offseason following shoulder surgery, Dom Espinosa stands to benefit as much as any lineman from a full offseason, as well as Mason Walters, who was limited by a stress fracture in his foot throughout his early tenure at Texas. Add in Josh Cochran, who essentially walked onto campus and earned a starting job within weeks, and it's easy to project significant gains in overall play based simply on gains in strength.
The two most pressing needs are to find a right tackle to allow Trey Hopkins to move back inside -- which should be filled by incoming JUCO tackle Donald Hawkins -- and to establish greater depth along the rest of the line, which could allow for the starting unit to more consistently perform at a higher level. A healthy Sedrick Flowers should help in that regard, as would development from Paden Kelly or another young player like Garrett Greenlea.
If there's one player who is representative of the collective leap the offensive line needs to make, it's Mason Walters. In the fall, he'll be entering his fourth year in the program after losing much of the first year and a half or so to that stress fracture and although Mack Brown has compared him to Kasey Studdard, right now the parallels rest mostly in attitude rather than on-field success.
A willing and emerging leader, like the rest of the line, Walters desperately needs to improve his consistency to avoid the type of catastrophic negative-yardage plays that often killed drives in 2011.
To take the next step in the running game, the Longhorns need better blocking from the tight ends at the point of attack, a major struggle last season. Brown acknowledged late in the year that Texas is still looking for that 6-5, 250-pounder who can both run and block, but it's not clear that such a tight end currently exists on the roster.
DJ Grant was slowed late by the knee injury he suffered against Missouri and at his best doesn't have the size or strength to consistently win battles against defensive ends -- that will probably continue to be the case into 2012, although some improvement is certainly possible, if not probable.
With Blaine Irby choosing not to apply for another year of eligibility and Dom Jones unlikely to return to the program after missing the Holiday Bowl due to grade issues, redshirting freshman MJ McFarland looks like the one and only hope for immediate and substantive improvement. But even though he has the ideal size at 6-5 and should be able to stretch the seam and use his ball skills to help out his quarterback, the major question mark for the former high school wide receiver revolves around what he can provide in the blocking game.
As with most of the other issues listed here, practice should provide some insight into what McFarland can do and the spring game will provide the first real viewing of his talents, but the unfortunate reality is that the solution for the tight end position problems may not currently be on campus. With no tight end currently committed in 2012 and the only player on the radar -- Mesquite Horn's Vincent Hobbs -- more of a regional recruit, if there's help coming, it probably won't be until 2013 at the earliest.
The injury to Fozzy Whittaker forced Texas to mostly abandon the Wildcat formation throughout the last part of the season and though it seems clear that mega recruit Johnathan Gray will step easily into that role in the fall when he begins practice with the team, his absence in the spring means that to rep the formation, Harsin will have to find another triggerman, at least temporarily.
There don't seem to be any strong indications that Miles Onyegbule or Mykkele Thompson will take time from working at other positions to play in the Wildcat, so that leaves only the incumbent running backs -- Bergeron, Brown, and Jeremy Hills. None are ideal for the formation, but if one of those three can at least emerge as a capable option there, it would both help execution and provide some insurance in case Gray suffers an injury in the fall.
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From what I've heard
Nick Rose can kick touchbacks, or at least to the back of the endzone pretty consistently from college distance. He’s definately not just a punter.
Longhorn11 - January 10, 2012 via mobile
Interesting
Thanks for that insight. Certainly wouldn’t hurt to have some more competition there.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 10, 2012
That's what we were told about Will Russ
when he committed a few days before NSD in 2010.
Still waiting, Will . . . . .
edsp - January 10, 2012
The clock is ticking on his time at Texas.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 10, 2012
To be fair
We also heard that Justin Tucker was having a difficult time adjusting to kicking fieldgoals without a tee.
On a related note, how many years now have we been teased about a kickoff specialist, only to never actually see the mythical beast?
Horncasting - January 10, 2012
No problem
I’ve seen him kick in person a few times as well, there’s no doubt he’s got a D1 leg.
Longhorn11 - January 10, 2012 via mobile
GoBR
Any thoughts about Whaley taking 3-5 short yardage/goal line hand offs per game…he knows the position and still looks quick enough for those situations…
UTLawGrad - January 10, 2012
More likely
I think that he would be used as a short-yardage tight end or lead blocker in those situations. I think Bergeron or Brown would be effective enough in that role that Whaley would be better used as a blocker.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 10, 2012
I think you're right about Bergeron and Brown
Cody has some unique vision in short-yardage situations, much like Zach Crockett did, but I don’t think the Bs are slouches in that regard, and they have good power as well. They should hammer it.
I do wish they’d resurrect the DT masquerading as a short-yardage blocker. Some nasty effer like Lokey was.
burntorangehorn - January 10, 2012
Loved Lokey at FB
So what about having one Malcolm Brown lead blocking for the other on the goalline?
CMDR - January 10, 2012
Either he or Whaley would also add the option of a FB pass
That we ran a couple of times with Lokey and Miller.
Horncasting - January 10, 2012
With 3 incredible RB's on the roster...
I don’t see why we would move a DT to Fullback. Makes no sense in my book. Especially with “Maulers” like Bergeron and to a lesser extent Malcolm Brown.
Hippie Killer - January 10, 2012
I don't get your point
With 3 incredible RB’s on the roster, you think it makes more sense to move one of them to FB or to not play with a FB at all?
Personally, I still hope Bergeron moves to FB. I like the idea of him on the field for almost every play and think he can provide the power we saw with Cody, with more elusiveness and burst. (And yes, I know at this point Harsin claims it won’t happen).
Horncasting - January 10, 2012
I believe
His point is the same as your latter paragraph, HC.
GoHornsGo90 - January 10, 2012
Exactly...
Just that we are gonna have 3 good backs who are going to be hungry for touches and hard to stop, so I don’t see the need to bring in a DT at that fullback spot.
Hippie Killer - January 10, 2012 via mobile
Great topical points for the first 2012 FB post
And all are worthy of in-depth analysis. One other area is losing Gideon. Controversial as he was, his leadership on and off the field will be missed regardless of what the fanbase thinks. There is something to be said for that. Vaccaro will have to step up his game and take over which I think he has a pretty good start. But with offseason shoulder surgery looming for Phillips, our safety and nickel back positions will be a question mark recognizing the limited times we saw Thompson and Evans. Thoughts here?
TXStampede - January 10, 2012
Fully expect
Vaccaro and Philliips to ably step into leadership roles in the offseason. As for Thompson and Evans, I think the injury to Phillips is a blessing in disguise because they will get more reps. I think the winner that emerges from that battle will be a solid contributor and add needed depth. In fact, I think there’s a possibility they could split some reps next season and their range could be a major boost to the position overall. Not concerned about the secondary at all. There’s already so much proven talent and the depth behind those guys has a ton of upside.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 10, 2012
Completely agree
I would like Phillips to get the reps in the spring, but building the competition and depth with Thompson and Evans will be great.
Gideon’s seniority was probably important this year, but I don’t think it will be missed all that much next year. This backfield will be much saltier next year.
SwimTexas - January 10, 2012
Should be
The most versatile secondary we’ve had in…well possibly forever. Every player will have likely cross-trained to an extent, aside from Byndom. Excellent strategy to increase ninja playcalls, decrease injury effects, and just make better overall players.
GoHornsGo90 - January 10, 2012
It will be fun to watch
The 2012 guys could rival the 2005 secondary.
Hobbes881 - January 10, 2012
The DB's are 2 deep...
Even after graduation and attrition. We could probably redshirt most of the incoming freshmen.
As a fan its hard not to get carried away and invision your 2 deep as NFLers.
Hippie Killer - January 10, 2012 via mobile
Not worried about that at all
GoHornsGo90 - January 10, 2012
Glad you singled out Cody Johnson
His cumulative service to Texas was outstanding – how many touchdowns did he wind up scoring in his Texas career? Although he was never the star tailback we might have hoped he’d be, he played his role to the utmost of his ability, and I believe his knack for moving a pile to grind out 1, 2, 3 yards at a time (not to mention find the goal line) will earn him a good living over the next several years. He will be difficult to replace.
As for Ash, I hope Harsin was paying close attention to the way Alabama used A.J. McCarron in last night’s game. He moved decisively and quickly in the pocket, always keeping his eyes down field. On rollouts, he made good decisions and was accurate with his throws. Even though LSU never managed to get much pressure on him due to outstanding protection, what few times they did, he managed to make one or two moves to avoid a negative play. He didn’t finish drives, but with the defense playing the way it was, he didn’t have to. If we get play like that from Ash, we’re tough to beat.
beast in bama - January 10, 2012
Johnson scored 36 touchdowns as a Longhorn.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 10, 2012
The WildTractor will be sorely missed
Tackchevy - January 10, 2012
No kidding
I loved that direct snap play to Cody Johnson. It was sort of like turning back the clock 100 years. All they needed were the leather helmets.
Reggieball - January 10, 2012
McCarron was outstanding last night
Was very impressed with Bama’s willingness to come out of their comfy offensive shell that they’ve been in for years (25 passes in the first half?! That’s a lot for a game for them). Was even more impressed by how A.J. made the moment his.
GoHornsGo90 - January 10, 2012
Quibble about all the praise for AJ
While he was good, I could not call him “outstanding” 6.7 yds per catch? If he played in the Big 12, we would be calling it a “dink and dunk” offense and criticizing both the QB and the coach for letting LSU hang in the game until the 4th quarter despite dominating them on Defense.
Why do you think BAMA could not “finish” drives? When the field got short, the short routes were covered, and the throws he could make in between the 20’s were not there anymore, thus field goal time.
He was good because he did not have a turnover, and he was accurate on the short throws. But I cannot agree that “outstanding” should be used.
SwimTexas - January 10, 2012
Agree
And I think the lack of “finish” to the drives was also attributable to Saban reasoning that an amalgamation of field goals was all he needed to win that game; with all the marbles at stake, he didn’t want to give LSU’s defense a chance to shift momentum with a brilliant play or turnover in the red zone.
Above all, I liked his confidence, cool and approach in the pocket. Hopefully Harsin can use that as a teaching tool with Ash, and then spruce it up with some not-so-conservative playcalling once we’ve reached the red zone.
beast in bama - January 10, 2012
Or
You decide to give the ball to Lacy instead of Richardson on 3rd and less than 1. Then get pissed you couldn’t make it
codaxx - January 10, 2012
Don't agree
But whatever.
GoHornsGo90 - January 10, 2012
Ha
No worries man. I was just saying I had a different opinion. Herbstreit agrees with you. He was tripping over himself complimenting AJ during the game…..
SwimTexas - January 10, 2012
Oh was he?
I was at Pluckers so it was kind of hard to hear. Well if there’s any talking head I’d like to agree with me, it would be Herbie lol. That’s my boy.
GoHornsGo90 - January 10, 2012
BTW sorry for the above comment
Read it again and it sounds douchey. Didn’t mean to do that. My bad man.
GoHornsGo90 - January 10, 2012
Let's hear it for Cody
A pile driver to be sure, especially against A&M. I don’t know what we’re going to do now when we absolutely, positively have to gain one yard. I hope he can take that up to the pros, but the piles are bigger there.
SpookHorn - January 10, 2012
My No. 2 concern
Big Roy: An area I’m deeply concerned about is wide receiver. I don’t know if it’s a rebuild area or a use it better area or just a black hole.
I think you hit many of the major issues/rebuild areas we’re facing this spring and summer. But as much as young QBs and injured WRs and a reworked, developing O-line contributed to the offensive averageness we were in 2011 — WR was just as big a factor.
We had Shipley. A true freshman. And that’s about it. When he went down we had, eeny, meeny, miny and Darius White.
Sorry, Mike Davis and Marquis Goodwin. I suppose you had your moments. But the WR situtation, minus Ship, was almost the cesspool it was in 2010 when Capt. Kirk and Chiles and Malcolm Williams and Goodwin were a conglomeration of mediocrity. Too many drops. Too little separation from defenders. Too little down and distance awareness. Too many missed blocks.
We go the spring with . . . Shipley.
Maybe MD is back, maybe his head is on straight, maybe he meets a long, heavy thing in the weight room and actually picks it up. Maybe Goodwin goes the track, and hopefully Olympic, route. Maybe he plays football. Maybe John Harris and Miles O, both sophomores to be, can contribute. But they aren’t field-stretchers. Maybe a true freshman with three initials comes on board; maybe not.
Lotta maybe’s after I type “Jaxon Shipley.”
edsp - January 10, 2012
THIS
ole tnhorn - January 10, 2012
Agree
This could be as big in terms of perceived QB development as the OL and actual QB development.
Horncasting - January 10, 2012
Similar sentiments
Possibly even my number one concern for next year. Just so cynical about the WR position by now, aside from Jax. Need Dorial badly.
GoHornsGo90 - January 10, 2012
I really liked the ball skills I saw out of
Cayleb Jones. I think he could be a good downfield threat ala Roy, Limas, etc.
40A - January 12, 2012
GBR thanks for the analysis
You’re correct. It’s never too early to talk football. The next 9 months will be like recovering from major surgery. Any opinions on why we can’t get a competent tight end? We seem to be able to identify & secure players at all other positions of need.
On a different subject it’s my opinion Okie St. would have done a better job of stretching the field on either of those two defenses last night. Not saying they would have won, only that they would have scored some touchdowns. LSU looked like Greg Davis was calling plays in the East / West offense.
ole tnhorn - January 10, 2012
Could not agree more
Just plain wasn’t right to leave out OK ST.
Burnedsince61 - January 10, 2012
The morning one of the media guys (Kiper, maybe?)
Was asked that question and responded that they shouldn’t have even beaten Stanford and that proved they had no business being in the MNC game. He then went on to say that if anyone deserved to be there it was Stanford.
How do these guys still have jobs?
Horncasting - January 10, 2012
Those are the same guys
who assured Ryan Leaf was “can’t miss”
ole tnhorn - January 10, 2012
Kiper
was a huge Akili Smith fan. So I no longer take that man seriously.
40A - January 12, 2012
Good example though
For Texas to get back on top, it starts and ends with O line and D line, every thing else is just gravy.
Burnedsince61 - January 10, 2012
? GoBG
With the QB situation being what it is,Case as backup, Brewer redshirt, why is there very little discussion on the board concerning Overstreet as a chance to help immediately if Ash where to go down, or underperform? I’ve only seen highlight of him, but he sure looked better than Case. I understand it is a long way from 3A to D1, but Colt came that same route with what appears to me to have been with less skill at the begining. Also believe Tatum to be stronger program than JN Tascola. Any thoughts and have you seen Overstreet with your own eyes? Sure wish I had known he was on the radar, he played only about 50 miles from me, I would have liked to seen what he looked like. Thanks GoBR, always appreciate your work.
Burnedsince61 - January 10, 2012
Haven't seen Overstreet in person
and would like to get a look at some game film of his so I could make a better evaluation of what his upside is. From everything that I can tell, he’s pretty raw, so it’s possible that he could get a look in a Wildcat formation early in his career, but other than that, he’s a long-term project and may not even stick at quarterback.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 10, 2012
I think it's assumed Overstreet plays immediately...
as our wildcat QB in the fozzy role.
We find out what we have and see how the others develop, then move him to his eventual home at LB or Safety.
Hippie Killer - January 10, 2012
I don't think it will be the Fozzy wildcat role
More like the “Ash packages” we saw earlier in the year.
Horncasting - January 10, 2012
i agree
i don’t think overstreet comes in the run the wildcat(think that will be a gray thing), but i would expect him to run a zone read package with some throwing options if he does play just like was the plan for ash this season.
Timmy Teat - January 10, 2012
Offensive line is the key
Everything works a lot better on offence when the line plays well. The leap this year was from awful to mediocre. They struggled against decent defensive lines. If they can open holes and give Ash time to throw, we will have a good offence next year. If not it will be a struggle like this year. We may still be a year away from having a good O-line.
longhorn charlie - January 10, 2012
Hawkins being a plug-and-play tackle is huge
If that happens and Hopkins moves inside, then the Oline could make a huge jump depending on how Espinoza does in the weightroom.
CMDR - January 10, 2012
One could only hope the plug-and-play thing works, and works well
I’m skeptical, but it’d be terrific to have an instant starter, even if the chemistry weren’t there initially.
burntorangehorn - January 10, 2012
It helps that Hawkins enrolled early
He has all spring, then summer conditioning, then the fall workouts to develop chemistry with the line. That is a lot of time.
SwimTexas - January 10, 2012
Good point
Horncasting - January 10, 2012
It seems like a lot of time, but it's not for that
Lots of programs with guys who are physically ready go multi-year stretches without developing chemistry.
burntorangehorn - January 10, 2012
Seems like more of a systematic problem
Than a time thing, in that case.
GoHornsGo90 - January 10, 2012
It can be time, system, or even just the player(s)
In Hawkins’ case, any or all could apply.
burntorangehorn - January 11, 2012
Agreed on Espinoza
Hard to run any play when your center is getting rolled into the backfield.
Burnedsince61 - January 10, 2012
Just too light in the ass
He has the right attitude it seems, but not even close to enough mass to deal with a true 0 NT.
CMDR - January 10, 2012
If they have a 0 NT
Should he really be by himself? (Very little knowledge of O-line technique/scheme here).
SwimTexas - January 10, 2012
No, but we ran a lot of stretch plays
where his help was needed elsewhere.
If you ask me (just my opinion) it seems the coaches had a bit too much confidence in him being able to handle the NT enough where we could be successful on the ground.
40A - January 12, 2012
Move Mason Walters to left one spot and the Center position
has been solved.
Hippie Killer - January 10, 2012
Leave a hole at guard
At this point no one can really say that an OL of:
Cochrane-Hopkins-Espinosa-Walters-Hawkins
is any better than an OL of:
Cochrane-Hopkins-Walters-???-Hawkins
I think people are writing Espinosa off way too soon. He did earn a starting spot as a redshirt freshman over a multi-year starter in Snow, plus OL ahead of him in tenure in Ashcraft, Porter, etc. And that despite his injury last year that limited his reps and S&C.
Horncasting - January 10, 2012
flowers
flowers would have seen a pretty decent amount of time this year had he not been injured.
i agree that people are writing espinosa(and just in general a lot of players) off too soon. but i also have no problem moving walters(or anyone else over) to play center if they are better at it and slotting flowers into the open guard spot.
Timmy Teat - January 10, 2012
Flowers, Greenlea, Ashcraft...
And other options like Porter or Rider add depth. I wouldn’t worry about filling the RG spit because in the big picture, its probably the easiest position on the OL to replace.
I beat the Walters to Center drum, because I think that solidifies a stout. Championship caliber OL.
Hippie Killer - January 10, 2012 via mobile
Re: Wildcat
I believe the reports were that Malcolm Brown was repping the wildcat in practice post-Fozzy, so I’d expect he’d get the Spring reps with the other RBs.
The good news is that according to Harsin, the Wildcat is called from the booth, so there is no true read for the RB, atleast not last year. That will help Gray step into the role easily in the fall since learning to make the right reads takes a lot of reps.
CMDR - January 10, 2012
I'd prefer Hills
He seems to be closer to the Gray type of back than either Brown or Bergeron. Also, I’d prefer B&B to actually practice where they’ll play next year.
Horncasting - January 10, 2012
Please not Hills
I don’t know why but it seemed when we needed him most he was terrible. Gray type back maybe, but lacks the skillset, seems to have no vision.
EODHorn - January 11, 2012
Remember we are talking about the spring practices - not games
Horncasting - January 11, 2012
I don't get the hate on Hills.
The guy had to step in with zero reps with the first team and did OK considering the circumstances.
40A - January 12, 2012
Side topic: Moving positions at OL
I’d love to read a good article on what it means for OL to be playing out of position, like Hopkins is.
I realize that different positions on the line are asked to do different things, but I’m trying to get a better idea of why Hopkins (or any other players) are asked to play different positions, and why that’s such an intensely difficult thing to place upon their shoulders.
Anyone have a detailed explanation? Preferably something longer than just a reply to this post! :)
TXinDC - January 10, 2012
Body type and skill set
Don’t have an article to link to, but Guard and Tackle is as different as DE and DT (well not quite, but close). Think of the difference in Okafor last year and this year due to him playing out of position last year.
CMDR - January 10, 2012
I don't think it's body as much as ability
In Harsin’s system, guards are asked to pull a lot of the time. You gotta have a burst and be really good on the timing.
Tackles are straight ahead, power blockers (on the run).
In addition, guards block entirely on defensive tackles (the brutes). Tackles normally block a defensive end, and those guys come in various shapes and sizes and some of them go whoosh and are past the tackle and into the backfield (remember the poor Aggie right tackle and the fits Okafor gave him in 27-25).
What we forget about Hopkins — and the others — is that he played left guard (and a bit of left tackle) as a true frosh in 2010. He was the LG in the spring and for at least a week, maybe two, this past summer. Then the staff got tired of Paden Kelley’s inconsistency at right tackle. Espinoza had begun to come on. Hopkins moved to RT and Snow moved from center to LG. So, not only were we playing a freshman at center, we were playing a guard at right tackle — where he’d never worked — and the center moved to LG was coming off an illness. That, and the whole line was playing in a new system. Oh, and Tray Allen missed 2010 to a foot injury and was the LT when 2011 began.
Think the O-line might be somewhat improved in 2012, with four starters back and Hawkins and Flowers added to the mix?
edsp - January 10, 2012
Hopkins doesn't have
the ideal height and arm length to deal with edge rushers. His biggest strength is his mobility pulling into space, which is something that tackles don’t typically do.
Hopkins was asked to play tackle out of pure need because Paden Kelley still isn’t ready to take major reps and Tray Allen was a bust.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 10, 2012
Just a tidbit.
My uncle coaches defensive ends/offensive line (mostly tackles) at Pflugerville. He coached Okafor. I talked to him about this recently. Tackles have a completely different mindset than guards. Guards are used to “playing offense” or engaging defensive lineman. Tackles are used to “playing defense”, or letting the defensive players engage them.
Of course, everything mentioned above is important (skill sets, body types, etc), but my uncle told me the biggest thing is the mental difference in the positions.
40A - January 12, 2012
I'm gonna miss Berryhill
I loved watching him selflessly give up his body, whether as lead blocker or on ST. Watching him as a lead blocker, and seal the line, whether off tackle or off the end, was a thing of beauty. His consistency will be missed.
nvrfrgt63 - January 10, 2012
Me too on Berryhill
Most positions on the football field, you’ve got to find a player who fits the needed size and speed and football smarts. You have to recruit to fill most positions.
Fullback is a straight-ahead basher, and you can build those. Down size an O-lineman. Beef up a linebacker or tight end. It’s a lead blocker position. FB doesn’t need receivers’ hands or ball carriers ability to cut or explode. A walk-on (as Berryhill was) who will play do anything and anywhere just get on the field.
Poehlmann, at 260, might be a fullback. We’ve got enough defensive tackles to use one, part-time, as a fullback. Daniels maybe. In years past, Lokey and Miller did that, maybe others.
edsp - January 10, 2012
Is Poehlmann returning?
I thought I read somewhere he was done as well.
40A - January 12, 2012
Wildcat
I thought Harsin loved how John Harris ran the wildcat before he went down. In fact, I believe he said “he’d never seen anyone run it better.” (more or less a quote)
I think Harris will be a HUGE part of our offense next year
btown1110 - January 10, 2012
Harris never ran the Wildcat
Harsin was saying that Whittaker ran the Wildcat better than anyone he’d had.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 11, 2012
Great post to start the offseason.
QB: I think Ash can make strides. The positive I see is that he has the mental ability to get there. People forget he was a true freshman thrown into a system he had never played in. Add that to the speed of the game and disaster is more likely to strike. The one thing I really like about him is that when he was taken out for Case, he didn’t pout. He kept working and showed improvement in the Holiday Bowl. I think we will see a better Ash next year.
OL: Cochran, Hopkins, Espinosa, Walters, Hawkins. Cochran will be special. Hopkins fits well at guard. Espinosa just needs a full offseason to really develop. He didn’t have that luxury last season. Walters is just nasty and will be better when healthy. Hawkins should be able to step right in and fill the void at tackle. I’m pretty happy with our OL set up next year if they stay healthy.
DB: We already know the corners and that will only get better. Kenny V coming back is a big plus. I think he will develop into a great leader. I think Phillips takes the FS position despite his surgery. We saw what he is capable of in the bowl. Y2K and Evans will compete though and likely get Nickel snaps but who knows.
RB: We will miss Cody. The FB position is what worries me the most. Maybe someone will emerge in the spring. MB and JB healthy will play up to their abilities. With an improved OL, I think they have outstanding seasons. JG will just do what he does…don’t even need to discuss because he is special. The wildcat is his. I’m just wondering whether Overstreet will excel in that role as well.
LB: GoBR is right. The talent is there. It’s the mental part that is in question. I don’t think they will be as good as this year but I think they will be close. Edmond and Cobbs are both stellar talents to step in. Maybe Edmond gets even more attention from Manny in X and O department this spring to help fill the void.
WR: Well, I’m hesitant until something is seen. Shipley will be good as usual and even better than this year. I really hope Davis gets it together and gives us at least his Freshman year output but that is up in the air. Harris coming back will be great…especially in the run game. He is a great blocker. Cayleb looks good and I wonder, with Wylie and Wyatt building him up, if he can’t creep into a starting role next year. This is my second biggest concern position next year.
DL: Deep and nasty. MB2 is going to crack the 2 deep and contribute immediately. JJ and Okafor will be lights out. Too many good players not to be one of the deepest and best DLs next year.
TE: Lord knows…Heard rumblings that McFarland is going to be a good one but I’m concerned about his blocking ability. DJ Grant needs to stay consistent. Beyond that, who knows.
ST: I have no idea what is going to happen there. Everything is up in the air…may the best man win.
I’m excited for 2012. Manny and HarsinWhite with a full offseason to continue installing their systems will be a blessing. The pieces are falling into place. I think we are a 9 win team at least (not including the bowl). The Big 12 looks a little down next year (especially if RG3 declares) so we might win more than we expect.
STLaw - January 10, 2012
Couple of points
OL: In addition to Hawkins, having an actual quality backup/depth in Kelley is huge. Plus, potentially a fully healthy, dedicated Greenlea. We are also developing some nice depth along the interior OL. Coaching seems like a plus now too.
ST: Kicking is definitely up in the air, but I really like what I saw this year out of Diggs in terms of punt returns. Placekicking definitely looks like the biggest potential for dropoff…plenty of room for improvement in kickoffs and punts.
Horncasting - January 10, 2012
Agreed
Flowers, Kelley, and Greenlea should add some depth. I really hope we can find a way to ’shirt Riser and Estelle but who knows.
The kicking and punting game are a toss up. Surely one or two of these guys will step up. Diggs did well back there on punt return. I think the biggest question mark will be who steps up in kick return. When Fozzy went down, so did our kick return yardage.
STLaw - January 10, 2012
Estelle and Riser looked like they really need a redshirt
On kickoffs, I’d really like to see them go with a non-every down player. So much athleticism on this team and no need IMO to risk a starter. I also really think it helps to keep non-starters engaged Sure would be nice to see DJ return to what he showed in his first few games. Otherwise maybe M Thompson or S Evans whichever is not the main nickel.
Horncasting - January 10, 2012
Everything stated right here
Needs to be faxed to Mack, pronto. Especially the redshirting OL if they aren’t direly needed.
GoHornsGo90 - January 10, 2012
Off topic but kind of funny...
Will Muschamp in an interview during the Florida basketball game on ESPN, “Our conference has won 6 championships in a row.”
Thought it was funny considering he was on the losing end of one of those. Still a fan of him though.
Jakehew - January 10, 2012
Let's see how those SEC boys do playing a January game in Ann Arbor or Madison
I think they’re the beneficiaries of the reluctance of fans, media, and even teams to go to cold-weather games in bowl season. The SEC gets warm practice weather and home region locations for almost all their bowls.
burntorangehorn - January 10, 2012
Isn't it more that most bowls are played in warmer locations period?
I haven’t done any research or anything, but I always thought they tried to do that. I’ll check it out.
GoHornsGo90 - January 10, 2012
Looks like 31/35 bowl games
Are located in what one would call the “southern half” of the U.S. Only northern locales are MI, NY, ID, and Washington D.C., which I guess you’d call north?
GoHornsGo90 - January 10, 2012
that's my point, really
Driven by the days when attendance mattered, bowls sprang up almost exclusively in the south, and in addition, almost all SEC bowl games are in SEC states.
That and the milder climate that allows for better bowl-season practices, not to mention the cheating, add up to a much better image than the league should have. I’d like to see them have to play in a snow bowl in Wisconsin.
burntorangehorn - January 10, 2012
Gotcha
All good points. Sorry I was slow.
GoHornsGo90 - January 11, 2012
Also, yes, other than DC, those are all northern
burntorangehorn - January 10, 2012
2012 Storylines (Issues) are almost all offense
Take your pick – QB, WR, OL, TE, FB, Everything but RB. I know all the position can affect the other position and I keep thinking of the saying – “chain is only as strong as its weakest link.”
As for QB, I am holding out hope for Ash but I am skeptical of his accuracy and consistency. I am a little bummed out we did not bring in a JUCO or transfer to compete or at very least be a better backup than what we have now. Costs to do so would have been mimimal and the positives outweighed the negatives. I hope it was not for Mack promises to certain people so they would not have to fear of competition.
The only good and consistent reciver so far seems to be Shipley – a true freshman. Other than that, I really like Goodwin. That guy has speed and seems to create separation at times. If the QB can throw a better timed ball (instead of having to wait or adjust for ball & defender catches up), Goodwin will have a few more TD’s. Mike Davis the negative vibe and get more focused and get more motivated.
OL needs to get better and I really think they will. I hope they all come in and learn their assignments better and they all need to get much stronger. I know that we had some freshman and it is a young line. Please no more highlights of defenders running by an OL guy untouched. I only saw it a few times, but they will improve with practive and time.
I have faith in Manny and the Tenacious D. I just hope we can get the offense to catch up…
4horns - January 11, 2012
Defense should definitely have very minimal issues
You’re right to target the offense. I’m optimistic on Ash, cynical on WR if Dorial doesn’t come, and have basically already given up on finding an every down TE unless M.J. McFarland is just a flat-out revelation—which I’m not going to trick myself into believing until I see him play.
GoHornsGo90 - January 11, 2012
Add MJ
to the ever-growing Bennie Wylie “project” list.
40A - January 12, 2012
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