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FSU Commit Christo Kourtzidis May Visit Texas

[Update]: Reports Wednesday evening from HornsNation ($) and Orangebloods ($) that Kourtzidis will make the weekend trip to Austin for an official visit. As noted below, Florida State will be making their in-home visit on Thursday. --GoBR--

2012 Mesquite Horn tight end Vincent Hobbs may not be the only visitor at his position this weekend as the Longhorns host the last group of official visitors before Signing Day. News broke Tuesday evening, first from a report at Hookem.com, that Texas had secured an in-home visit ($) with Orange Lutheran (CA) tight end prospect Christo Kourtzidis, currently a commit to Florida State, in an effort to convince him to visit this weekend.

As of Wednesday morning, there were no indications about whether or not Kourtzidis will be in Austin this weekend, as it appears he will wait until after an in-home visit with Florida State Wednesday evening to make that decision (edit: that in-home will take place Thursday), though it's certainly possible that news could break throughout the day. The 6-4, 240-pounder is also considering taking his final visit to UCLA and it seems that Cal is also on his radar.

Much as Oregon tried, and somewhat failed, to do with former Texas commit Thomas Johnson in keeping his visit from becoming public until the last possible moment, so it seems that the Longhorn staff was able to keep interest in Kourtzidis from breaking, even though there have been rumors of a mystery recruit at Hookem.com for some time.

Star-divide

Now that the interest has broken, an introduction to Kourtzidis as a player seems in order. Besides his previously-mentioned size, which is close to the range that the coaching staff indicated they preferred in terms of projecting a player's ability to excel both as an in-line blocker and receiving threat at the position, Kourtzidis isn't the fastest tight end prospect with a 40 time clocked by ESPN at just under 5.0. Keep in mind, however, that he is 240 pounds.

Physically, Kourtzidis is close to college ready with an already developed frame that can likely hold 10-15 more pounds of muscle pretty easily without impacting his speed.

Interestingly enough, Kourtzidis shows off that speed much better on defense, particularly in his change of direction ability and short-area burst, even though he projects as a pure tight end prospect. The California native also shows some flexibility in being able to dip his shoulder at times and run the arc as a pass-rusher, the type of flexibility that will help him as an in-line blocker in college be able to explode out of his hips.

Since he doesn't have elite straight-line speed for the position, whether or not he can stretch the seam vertically in college is a question mark at this time, especially since he seems to play faster on defense. The hope for whatever team lands him is that he could learn to run his routes at the same tempo he pursues opposing ballcarriers.

As a pass catcher, the most impressive thing about Kourtzidis is that he consistently shows the ability to make tough catches in traffic by attacking the football and being willing to take hits after he does so. Again, the concern is that he's not creating more separation in those situations, but sometimes that simply isn't possible when he's attacking small holes in coverage.

After the catch, the big tight end doesn't show any of the elusiveness suggested by his tackling radius, but can break some arm tackles and create yards after contact with his size/strength combination. He won't be drawing any comparisons to any of the current stars in the NFL now dominating the league at that position, but those players are also extremely rare, as the Longhorns have found out in recent years.

When blocking, Kourtzidis is at his best when combo blocking to the second level, where he can use his mobility to lock up linebackers. On the line of scrimmage, his punch doesn't exactly make him look like an offensive linemen and he won't often displace opponents, but there is plenty of effectiveness walling them off from the play.

Overall, if Texas manages to get Kourtzidis on campus and can convince him in that short period of time to flip from Florida State, he won't exactly revolutionize the position at Texas or remind people of Jermichael Finley, but he does have the size to be an effective blocker and should at least become an effective option in the short or intermediate passing game.

The bottom line is that the Longhorns have suffered an incredible number of injuries at the position in recent years, so the strategy should become to find as many players like Kourtzidis, bring in at least one or two every year that don't need to add 30 pounds to have some blocking upside, and hope that a couple stick. Maybe even cheat on the evaluations and just go offer every tight end Stanford offers.

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I watched a little of "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" last night on HBO

Coincidence? I think not.

Maybe with a little Windex...

His 40 time will get better.

If not, at least he'll have clear skin
Definite Rec

I think we should spray a little Windex on the whole team before everygame.

I looked at Greece on a map with my daughter last night...

scary…

And did you know that Kourtzidis in Greek means, "Soft Hands"

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this move makes sense with lack of depth at TE

But how are we not going hard after Christian Morgan?

Not clear.

Texas may see him as a defensive end or is continuing to evaluate prospects around the state (Jeremiah Gaines, Trent Gow), as well as around the country.

his speed, or lack there of

Is not going to stretch the seam or create openings for other receivers. Where I see him being primarily used, his current skill set in mind, is on option routes and sit down routes where he spots up in a zone and makes possession catches to move the chains. Make no mistake that there is a lot of value in that but like GOBR said don’t expect something revolutionary based off of current skill set.

Jason Witten is 6-5 257, runs a 4.67 40...

speed isn’t everything. I’ll take good hands and blocking all day.

That's fast for a tight end.

Big difference between 4.67 and 4.97, which is what Kourtzidis runs.

I don't think anyone is arguing that speed is everything

But it certainly kills and no one argues that.

My mind cannot get wrapped around the concept

of CONTINUING TO RECRUIT until signing day, instead of landing 24 commitments by July 1 and shutting down the effort.

Also, does the NCAA allow Texas to recruit beyond the Red River, Sabine and Rio Grande rivers?

Not only are the coaches continuing to recruit

But they are also continuing to identify and contact additional targets. I can’t remember that happening this late in the process in the entire Brown era. It doesn’t sound like this kid is a late bloomer take like Sam Acho or DJ Grant either.

Mack does prefer to stay in-state...

He has mentioned that his preference is to recruit within Texas, with some few exceptions in the past 12 years or so. One comment Mack made a few years back was that the state of Texas provides all the talent that he will need for the team. With the increased “raiding” of Texas high school players by out-of-state schools, I think we are seeing another change in Mack’s way of doing business in that he is allowing the recruiting net to be cast in a much broader area to capture players that a few years back would not be on the radar. Glad to see the coaching staff make these type of changes…slow as it may seem.

I'm glad Mack mostly stays in state

Seems to me the greatest recruiting advantage a school has . . . and the most important point to a majority of recruits . . . is proximity. Go where the folks, the buds, the former coaches and teammates, can join in.

But there’s another issue, one I’d call the family or “Mack’s style”. The TGOD. I don’t think that stops at the state’s borders, and there’s no reason not to troll for these kinds of players — whether they’re a few hundred miles away in Oklahoma, or in Florida or California. Blaine Irby. Ben Alexander. Connor Brewer. Demarco Cobbs.

By not looking outside, we limit ourselves. The LHN will only help grow our chances OOS.

Consistently recruiting in state also helps develop relationships with high schools.
"Raiding"

Probably has something to do with it. But he’s also the beneficiary/victim of whatever offenses are being promoted within the high school ranks in the state. Is it possible that Texas high schools aren’t producing a lot of tight ends? Or, more broadly, that high school schemes aren’t developing the type of athletes and skill sets (at certain positions) that Texas is trying to move to?

Tight ends

I have seen this type of argument advanced before and while it may be true that the state isn’t producing many pure fullback prospects, to say that there aren’t tight ends because of the spread doesn’t make sense. You either have 6-4, 230-pounders or you don’t. And every spread team would kill to have that type of blocking/receiving threat. The simple fact is that the prototypes are extremely difficult to find because they’re just a rare species.

Could it be those guys playing playing DE instead of TE?

A few years back there was the perception that the state wasn’t producing very many college ready LB’s because all of the guys with those frames were dead set on playing RB.

There may be a few at DE

but most schools will still play those guys both ways unless it’s a really big school with a lot of talent. Heck, Brenham played Malcom Brown some at tight end this year. Any offensive coach with half a mind is fighting with the defensive line coach to get that athletic tackle or end on offense. That’s just survival instinct as a coach, if nothing else.

As for linebackers wanting to play running back any wave like that would be pretty coincidental, especially in a region where most of the college teams run the spread, which means zone blocking in which large running backs who can’t cut with precision aren’t overly valuable. So, if there was any truth to it at one point, sometimes you may just get a group of linebackers who really want to play running back in college. Again, those are complementary positions where most of those guys will play both ways at linebacker and running back in high school.

Don't a lot of high schools

play their bigger WRs at TE in the spread offense?

Depends.

Some split out their tight ends as wide receivers, as Lutheran does with Kourtzidis and Gig Harbor did with AS-J. Not sure you can really make any blanket statements about that.

Right, it goes both ways,

and I agree that your 6’4 230 tight end prospects are rare, but they seem to be rarer in Texas.

Sounds like David Thomas

Who’s a good comparison?

Not nearly as fast as Thomas.
I agree, cheat off of the Stanford kid
4.97!?

He’s almost as fast as Poehlman!

I think the relevant question is

how does Kourtzitis compare to Hobbs? It looks like the staff has belatedly determined that we have both schollie room and need for a TE in this class. So if those are the two options, which one should I be rooting for?

Kourtzidis is better than Hobbs.

I might give Hobbs the slight edge in athleticism, but he projects better as an H-back in college, whereas Kourtzidis has the edge in size and upside as an in-line blocker.

And in Kourtzitis' videos

he looks like he’s got quite a pair of hands. Diving catches, bringing the ball down out of a double-team, etc. We could use some of that, even if it’s mostly in the short field.

Irby -- pre injury? I'll take that -- nt
Prob'ly more like Dave Thomas' hands on EBS' body.

At least if the tape tells the full story, and it usually doesn’t.

He looks considerably faster

than his stated 40 time on his highlight video.

That's why I hate

40 time calculations. I would rather see how they run in pads.

Yep

Strange since those things are usually inflated in the player’s favor.

As an example, the following players would be running neck and neck with him in a 40:

Sedrick Flowers
Garrett Greelea
Ashton Dorsey
Dominic Espinosa
Dez Jackson
And………..Taylor Bible

That's actually a legitimate 40 time for Kourtzidis

but yeah, a lot of those 40 times listed are severely inflated.

what am I missing?

We are looking at a Cali kid that has good size, not a specimen, runs a 5 flat in 40, and has an offer from FSU. Clearly, he is a legit prospect, but the write seems to be selling him short. I have not seen any film yet, but the article and his offers do not seem to be a match.

I think I'm more excited about the prospect of Greg Daniels at TE

Bigger, taller, meaner, and can’t be any slower.

Going to be hard

for Daniels to make that transition during the summer and fall. Out of the guys who are missing the spring (Jeffcoat, Phillips, Daniels), he’s the one who needed it the most. And I would guess that Daniels is around the same speed as Kourtzidis, if not a little bit slower.

Is the Daniels to TE just speculation or has it been reported/rumored?

He’s really in a tough spot with Moore and M. Brown coming in and the way all of the other DT’s came on late in the season.

Mack announced it in his post-season presser

Thanks, must have missed it

His career is kind of following Greg Smith – being asked to bulk up to play the line and then slim down to play TE.

Can he bring MEJ with him?
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