A day before Arkansas head coach Bobby Petrino was scheduled to make an in-home visit with mega recruit Dorial Green-Beckham, his father and head coach, John Beckham, revealed to CBSSports.com that a "situation" had occurred and that the visit was cancelled.
According to Beckham, the Hog head man and DGB "bumped into each other" at some point during the AFCA Coaches Convention, which was held in San Antonio this year at the same time the big wide receiver was in town participating in the Army All-American game. It's not clear when exactly the contact occurred -- it was either during a "dead" or "quiet" period that forbids in-person contact -- but Beckham did say that another school recruiting DGB reported the situation to the NCAA.
The CBS Sports report did not clarify why exactly the potential violation by Petrino would force the coach to cancel his in-home visit, but did seem to imply a direct connection. As for possible sanctions from the NCAA in the matter, if the contact was unintentional, as seems likely, it should not impact DGB's eligibility or result in sanctions against Arkansas, though it does generally help in such cases to self-report the issue, which apparently did not happen here.
As for when Mack Brown will take his official visit, it appears that Thursday evening is now open with the cancellation of Petrino's in-home. Stephen Spiewak of MaxPreps tweeted Wednesday that Brown was planning on making his in-home visit during lunch on Thursday, but he could now slide into that later slot following Petrino's cancellation.
With Brown apparently in Van visiting with Dalton Santos on Wednesday, time was starting to run out for the Texas head coach to visit with the Beckhams, raising some interesting questions about the timing of the cancellation of Petrino's visit amidst news that another school reported the potential violation. Did Texas, seemingly pro-active recently in helping the NCAA target recruiting violations in the state, report the contact between Petrino and DGB?
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Did Texas, seemingly pro-active recently in helping the NCAA target recruiting violations in the state, report the contact between Petrino and DGB?
And if so, would that be viewed as a positive thing by the family or not. In the long term, I want Texas to report everything that it ever sees for 2 reasons: 1) it lessons the chance of someone “getting away with it” in Texas, and 2) if we continue to report everyone, we will need to be even more vigilant in not crossing the line – as everyone will want payback.
If it is a fair game, I think we will win most of the time…
UTLawGrad - January 25, 2012
Well this won't help Petrino's character questions
Queue the Arkansas trolls.
billfromlaketravis - January 25, 2012
Petrino
HookemHouston - January 25, 2012
In principal, I agree with UTLaw, but I hope, in this case, that it was not Texas reporting. I can’t see how that perception would help us here. More likely to leave a bad taste.
sedonajim - January 25, 2012
agreed
on the point about it leaving a bad taste…forgot to finish my thought above by saying that short term it may hurt…
UTLawGrad - January 25, 2012
Arkansas fan on Twitter
is telling me that the Arkansas folks think the assistants will make the in-home Thursday night instead, which would keep Mack Brown’s visit at lunch. Doesn’t seem like that is confirmed yet, though.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 25, 2012
in the linked article
“Beckham added that Arkansas will send other coaches on Thursday.”
cade21 - January 25, 2012
Dangit.
That’s kind of a crucial part of the article to miss. I guess that settles that.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 25, 2012
kind of in between
maybe i am not a rules “strict constructionist”. If by “bumping into” , that phrase is meant literally and there was “insignificant” contact. Like maybe a truly inadvertent “hey there, nice to see you” and then everyone moved on down the line, I would hope we did not report that.
if there was a bit more than that (and pretty anything more than, “hey there nice to see you” should be something any coach would know not to do,then i am ok with reporting any such substantive contact.
Longhorn723 - January 25, 2012
this only helps us
putting this together with reports that DGB’s mother doesnt like Petrino and i think Texas could take a slight lead in the process
horns1025 - January 25, 2012
This is Arky getting caught red-handed
and now trying to back track. Funny how it was an innocent “run in” with DGB. That is code for he looked for him to bump into him more than likely. It’s all about how your frame your statement.
The coaches well know where the recruits will be and likely know to stay away from that area.
STLaw - January 25, 2012
Anything that hurts Arkansas helps every other school still in the running equally.
OU and Mizzou are as pleased by this as are the folks at Texas.
I will say that if the Beckhams know who reported the contact, they could take a dim view of that school, as the report itself it could be perceived as a danger to Dorial’s eligibility.
Like others here, I believe a truly incidental contact should have been let go without comment, while something more substantial has to be reported.
Good luck to every school still in the race. May Dorial choose the school that best fulfills his wants as a player and his needs as a man.
Cardina1 - January 25, 2012
Kind of blows that Mack won't have the evening visit
Hopefully he doesn’t forget to bring the Sanca
kcmorse - January 25, 2012
sanka
kcmorse - January 25, 2012
Any chance this makes Arkansas unable to keep recruiting him
I know right now everyone is speculating that it was an innocent coincidence. However if DGB actually signs with Ark you’d have to think it will get a little more scrutiny.
Horncasting - January 25, 2012
it cant hurt heheh
dukeoforange - January 25, 2012
interesting
If dgbs mom didn’t like petrino before this I’m pretty sure she’s definitely not gonna like this. I think we are too busy recruiting and trying to flip players to have time to worry about petrino. Anybody got a front runner now? Haha
susuata - January 25, 2012
is OU still in the running?
i thought it was down to ARK, MIZZOU and us
jtdoes - January 25, 2012
Stoops had his in home visit Monday night so there’s still at least some consideration there.
cade21 - January 25, 2012
Key Component--If true
Petrino did not SELF-REPORT. It is always the converup that gets these coaches/schools that cheat creamed.
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
That's why I think it's more than it's being made out to be
Horncasting - January 25, 2012
well
in any event, it can’t hurt our chances but only help it if ARK can’t even send their head coach for the last in-home visit.
jtdoes - January 25, 2012
If his mom already didn't like Petrino
The “accidental bump” trick probably went over like a lead balloon with her.
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
How dare you use the "accidental bump" trick with my Mom.
That’s MY move!
robthecob - January 25, 2012
Frank is that you?
2Cor12:9 - January 26, 2012
That writer is a bit clueless too
He repeatedly said Alabama was a finalist but they have been cut off the list for some time.
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
Let's not assume Texas turned in Petrino
I could very well see Saban hanging around the same places as Petrino since they are SEC chums…ha ha….and when Alabama got cutt off the DGB short list they would have nothing to lose to let this little bump incident be reported. Especially since Saban is the master bumper.
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
nice to see someone that doesn't assume that Texas did this
I understand Texas has been tough on bad recruiting tactics but that doesn’t mean other schools don’t have something to gain by reporting this as well.
cade21 - January 25, 2012
I hope we didn't
I think it would create issues for DGB and so it is a fine line that I hope none of the final 4 schools were forced to take. Hopefully it was from a team not even related to the recruitment.
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
I'm with you
I hope we didn’t do it, just feels kinda cheap and wrong. The article does say another school that was recruiting him was there. Whether it’s a team that’s still in it doesn’t seem clear but it kinda seems like that’s the implication.
cade21 - January 25, 2012
When you consider
that Petrino knows exactly the rules and consequences of what he’s doing when he has any contact with a recruit, it’s not cheap and wrong. He’s cheating, he knows it, and it should be reported. I’m not trying to take the high road here, but you shouldn’t be able to just get away with this stuff. He’s not the 17 year old kid who’s learning to deal with the world, he’s the boss who knows the rules. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Sleepy - January 25, 2012
fair
but if whoever knew about this knew back in the early part of the month why is it just coming out now with the final visits coming out? There could be a good reason for it there’s just something that feels kinda weird about this to me.
cade21 - January 25, 2012
Very good point - the timing is oh so suspect!
Snide Aside - January 25, 2012
sec doesn't report sec
it’s in the rules, brah.
mattw - January 25, 2012
tell that to Bama
there is a reason they still hate Tenn
codaxx - January 26, 2012
Right, but I think mattw's talking about the rumor that Slive recently circled the conference members' wagons
burntorangehorn - January 26, 2012
they did
remember kiffycakes having to apologize for trying to dish dirt on other schools?
i guess it rules out mizzou on reporting it to unless pinkel didn’t get the memo or just blew it off after polishing off a 7/11’s entire yellowtail stock
mattw - January 26, 2012
Didn't Kiffin just apologize for calling Meyer a cheater for permissibly calling a recruit on official visit to Tenn?
burntorangehorn - January 26, 2012
i think that's pretty much the gist of it
he got called out by slive publicly for it.
mattw - January 26, 2012
SEC will end up hanging Loftin
By that damn bow tie within a few years.
Wrangler86 - January 26, 2012
rec'd for the yellowtail jab
jlhotze - January 26, 2012
Anybody getting as tired of this DGB recruitment as I am?
Snide Aside - January 25, 2012
Just hold on...
It’ll be over in less than a week
Pounds - January 25, 2012
i've seen the circus
this ain’t shit.
ibleedburntorange49-9 - January 25, 2012
You must not have been around for Darryl Scott
THAT was a fiasco.
GoHorns - January 25, 2012
How did that recruitment go again
I must be suffering from Amnesia
kcmorse - January 25, 2012
The drama!
Basically he and his mom pulled an 11th hour stunt and wouldn’t let the Texas coaches near him or the facility where he was making his decision. Rumors were that CU “aligned” a job for his mom near Boulder to draw him to CU. The boards were on full on meltdown alert
GoHorns - January 25, 2012
That sounds about right
I just looked it up on Wikipedia, should of done that from the start. They said he gave Mack a private commitment but reneged on the deal on signing day @ the ESPN Zone. Allegedly because RB coach Ken Rucker became High School pr director
kcmorse - January 25, 2012
And used Major coaching RB's as part of the reason he switched as well
There were also rumors that his cousin (or uncle or whatever) that already played at CU got his scholarship offer the previous year based on the understanding that Scott would end up there as well.
Horncasting - January 26, 2012
Ha ha ha ha
That was truly the high water mark. I remember reading this blog at about 3am the night following that.
chilimilkjones - January 26, 2012
This has Pinkel written all over it
He views Arkansas as his primary competition and maybe realizing the lame ass heli visit didn’t seal the deal, he moved to plan B…
Pounds - January 25, 2012
It is
Check out the comments on the CBS article, the way that Mizzou just swept in all of a sudden, it adds up, this is the bomb that they think will push him from Arky and they also think that its just them and Arky, little do they know but we just jumped straight to the top if its true
btown1110 - January 25, 2012
if this hurts Arkansas
And pinkel did do it I’m not sure he realizes just how much he has helped Texas
horns1025 - January 25, 2012 via mobile
Amen brother
btown1110 - January 25, 2012
He was probably drunk dialing the NCAA
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
dont drink and call
horns1025 - January 25, 2012
don't drink and post either
I’ve done that before and I always regret it the next morning.
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
you scare me when your drunk posting lol
horns1025 - January 25, 2012
I do that shit all the time on Facebook and feel like the biggest douche in the morning
kcmorse - January 25, 2012
"Dude, I was so drunk. Why did I poke that ugly chick's profile?"
burntorangehorn - January 25, 2012
You could have stopped here:
GoHorns - January 25, 2012
Nice
kcmorse - January 25, 2012
ESPN-U will air Dorial Green-Beckham's college announcement live
It’s a good thing the state of the union address wasn’t scheduled to be broadcast at the same time as “the decision” because the President was counting on good TV ratings.
spinmonkey - January 25, 2012
Is there a list of
coaches that were in attendance for this convention?
If u read the comments for the CBS article they seem convinced it’s Mizzou as well.
Pounds - January 25, 2012
Hope Mizzou is the culprit, but not sure Hog commenters have any particular insight or intelligence
sedonajim - January 25, 2012
True
But it makes sense with way the Pinkel has just “swept in” the past week, this could be the bomb. They think we’re out, but I bet we jump to the top
btown1110 - January 25, 2012
Prince Pinkel
On his little white helicopter.
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
"Just when they thought we were out ... "
“… they pull us back in!”
robthecob - January 25, 2012
No truer words...
Ideally, both Mizzou and OU turned in Arky, driving DGB straight into Mack’s arms – for Texas.
beast in bama - January 25, 2012
Most of them most likely.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 25, 2012
im sorry but...
…hes not coming to texas, im pretty sure of it.
vanterminatorhorn - January 25, 2012
cite your source if you are so smart!!! /sarcasm
Meh. I would love for him to play for UT but honestly I have progressed to a point in life where the decision of an 18 year old no longer makes me emotionally unstable.
dukeoforange - January 25, 2012
at least until I have an 18 year old of my own...
dukeoforange - January 25, 2012
There goes the other shoe
beast in bama - January 25, 2012
It doesn't have to be an 18-year old.
Trust me, my little 13-year old girl does the trick just fine.
robthecob - January 26, 2012
woah, touche touche...
…it was just an opinion. i didnt say i knew it for a fact. jesus, relax dude…
vanterminatorhorn - January 26, 2012
GoHorns - January 26, 2012
dude
i put /sarcasm on the end of my statement LOL that means I am being sarcastic!!!! =D
dukeoforange - January 26, 2012
'Pretty sure' about it?
Do u know something that no one else involved in his recruitment knows or are u just a half glass empty kinda guy?!
Pounds - January 25, 2012
it was a opinionated statement...
…no i dont know any more than the average bear here.
vanterminatorhorn - January 26, 2012
an*
vanterminatorhorn - January 26, 2012
Everyone seen the photo of DGB wearing an arky shirt on his offical?
Snide Aside - January 25, 2012
No biggie, proper guest protocal
Can you imagine how much ARK is going to HATE their new SEC member if it was Mizzou. LOL
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
We are starting to hate Mizzou almost as much as Tex. not there yet
Joe Whitmer - January 30, 2012
And MEJ wore a Texas helmet and flashed the horns
btown1110 - January 25, 2012
Did DGB wear any Texas gear on his offical here?
I know his brother did.
Snide Aside - January 25, 2012
by all accounts his brother loves us
i mean really loves us “kid in a candy store” i believe was how it was put
horns1025 - January 25, 2012
No, only a Hog jersey
Joe Whitmer - January 30, 2012
I would'nt think little brother would wear anything with Tx. on it because he is a big Hog fan.
Joe Whitmer - January 30, 2012
Don't want to troll
But to the best of my knowledge, however limited it may be, I can’t recall Arkansas having recruiting violations recently. I do seem to recall an incident maybe a couple of years ago with name tags on lockers in the locker room. So maybe one. But, that being said, maybe it really was an incidental run in with a “hey, how are you.” I think that it is also noteworthy that this is all said by the players father. Who really knows his depth of knowledge of who is doing what? Seems like a pretty fair chance of second, third, or maybe even fourth had information.
HogCP - January 25, 2012 via iPhone app
troll, troll, troll....just kidding
It will be interesting to learn what and how and who reported it. But, not self-reporting by Petrino was so dumb. If he didn’t and it is true he’s getting a slap of some sort.
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
i dont see this as a big deal in terms of NCAA violations
it may hurt you guys with DGB but it wont hurt you with the NCAA
horns1025 - January 25, 2012
Yeah, it won't be much even if it was intentional
Like a warning or lose an in-home visit next year or something equally irrelevant. But the NCAA always does the opposite of what is to be expected, so maybe this is a death penalty case.
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
More posters like HogCP
Please. Like this guy. Reasonable fellow.
GoHornsGo90 - January 25, 2012
Watch him closely, though.
He’s got that SWC bad blood still runnin’ through his veins. He’ll attack when you hear the “Oink, Oink”.
robthecob - January 26, 2012
oink
HogCP - January 26, 2012 via iPhone app
Improper Recruitment
Can you imagine the stuff the DGB family has had to deal with including the media, the pressure, the temptations, the decisions….etc.
IF it is true that his mother trusts Sally and Mack, that may be key because the evildoers are going to closely following and his parents are not going to be there to protect him at college, so they need to trust the person watching over their baby. Go get ’em Sally.
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
For all we know, she lays around on the couch doin' nothing but eatin' bon-bons & watchin' Oprah.
But she sure does have an aura around here. You go, cookie-lady!
robthecob - January 26, 2012
Don't forget about texting the recruits moms haha
HookemHouston - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Arkansas beat writer
saying that the school told him there has been no violation committed in DGB’s recruitment. FWIW.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 25, 2012
Standard Operating Procedures
Deny, Deny, Deny untill confronted with the evidence, then downplay, downplay, downplay, until the NCAA ruling, then be contrite, contrite, contrite
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
Are you the PR rep for Kelvin Sampson?
You just sound so familiar.
robthecob - January 26, 2012
HAHAHAHAA
40A - January 26, 2012
...
Somehow I do not think CBS would have just made that up..maybe Arky is just trying to stall until they can get something official out.
HookemHouston - January 25, 2012 via mobile
And DGB's dad surely didn't make it up.
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
Exactly
This came from someone who knows what’s going on in DGBs recruitment better than anyone… Good try though beat writer
HookemHouston - January 25, 2012 via mobile
Or as wrangler is saying, until they get caught officially haha
HookemHouston - January 25, 2012 via mobile
I think the only thing that matters to us is Petrino isn't visiting
That’s pretty damned important for whatever the reason may be!
Snide Aside - January 25, 2012
Haha DGBs mom didn’t want any Petrino slime in her house..
HookemHouston - January 25, 2012 via mobile
well she let Stoops in. i wouldnt let Stoops within 500 meters of me
horns1025 - January 25, 2012
More specific, please.
Which Stoops? 500 meters sure is being risky.
robthecob - January 26, 2012
all of the Stoops
horns1025 - January 26, 2012
Does'nt matter, other Coaches are doing it for him.
Joe Whitmer - January 30, 2012
Also, if the land thieves were out of contention, DGB's parents sure didn't think so.
Or the Stoops in-home would not have happened.
Snide Aside - January 25, 2012
OU worries me
Because DGB’s fellow Missourian Neal is going there. And, I have not been able to find any word that Trey Metoyer was able to enroll. If Meteyor is a no-go to OU, then DGB would have that spot without much competition, which was his previous concern at OU. Silly as that may sound, that is what Neal said.
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
Metoyer tweeted he was in - a few days ago.
Snide Aside - January 25, 2012
Whew!
I was worried there for a minute..
HookemHouston - January 25, 2012 via mobile
All this is what makes his recruitment so tiresome
And, really, what is probably the coup de gras is still the girl friend.
Snide Aside - January 25, 2012
What if..
He went to school to be near her, got dumped, requested a transfer, and all of this happened again.
HookemHouston - January 25, 2012 via mobile
Really?
I don’t know if Metoyer is smart enough to know he isn’t in or not. He said he was in out of high school, and got sent out to Virginia to get his academics cleaned up. Then he said he was good to go but just waiting on the clearinghouse. But, I’ve not seen his status changed to Signed LOI which is what it shows for most of the enrolled kids.
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
I heard Stoops brought a VHS copy of Barbershop
but the Beckhams weren’t playing that shit
kcmorse - January 25, 2012
I can't find this story anywhere else
Maybe Petrino isn’t visiting because they visited during DGB’s on campus time ? I don’t know recruiting rules, but I can’t find this story anywhere except this Dodds guy at CBSSports, and he says that Alabama is still in the running so he is a bit clueless.
Just sayin’.
Wrangler86 - January 25, 2012
I read today
That they decided to take BP out of the visit due to the run in. They are going to call said run in the visit and send another coach to avoid a violation. Sorry I can’t provide the source.
HogCP - January 26, 2012 via iPhone app
Well, that would certainly make sense.
I happen to think that DGB would be a much better fit in Arkansas’ offense than Texas’ but I sure do hope he comes to Austin. Who knows. Maybe the offense would evolve to passing with a player this good to utilize.
robthecob - January 29, 2012
LOL - Bama still in the running? There ya go!
Snide Aside - January 25, 2012
GOBR - you have all of the connections and the most inside info on this kid
Throw us all a bone. We feel we are twisting in the wind.
Snide Aside - January 25, 2012
I don't even know if DGB knows where wants to go.
If he did, he probably would have committed somewhere already. Other than that, whatever is really known behind the scenes isn’t really coming out. Pretty much everything seems like speculation at this point.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 25, 2012
This is becoming apparent
If he was truly enamored with any specific college, he would have already committed – if nothing else to alleviate the recruiting pressure. That’s why I think he will go where his heart takes him.
Snide Aside - January 26, 2012
Wonder if this one could actually go past signing day
Horncasting - January 26, 2012
Terrelle Pryor went long like that
He actually announced for Ohio State about six weeks after NSD. IIRC, his father really, really pushed him to go to Penn State, which was much closer to home, and Michigan and at least one other school were also on the list. Although he had said he would announce on NSD, Pryor actually publicly announced that he would not announce that day.
burntorangehorn - January 26, 2012
Wasn't Oregon in on Pryor down to the wire?
40A - January 26, 2012
I don't remember them being in it late in the process.
Woulda been cool seeing Pryor in that Oregon offense. Just remember the late recruiting decision always being between the big dogs, Michigan & Ohio St.
robthecob - January 26, 2012
As did Clowney last year.
2Cor12:9 - January 26, 2012
And that Coundjio kid too.
Or did he commit somewhere and switch the next day? I can’t remember. There were a few instances like that last year.
40A - January 26, 2012
Yeah committed to Auburn but dad wouldn't sign letter of intent.
Anyone see the OTL piece on recruiting last night on ESPN where recruits were polled and said that the top 2 recruiting head coaches were Saban and Chizik. Are you kidding me!! Did they only poll kids in the south. No way Chizik is a better recruiter than Mack!
2Cor12:9 - January 26, 2012
The only polled kids in Alabama
And the poll questions were a little biased. For exampe:
Horncasting - January 26, 2012
Saban landed 25% of the vote and I think Chizik had 12 or 13%
so I would believe there was more than two options.
But as I am typing this I am hinting at some sarcasm from you.
2Cor12:9 - January 26, 2012
Well, Chizik did best Mack in a recruiting battle quite recently...
…but I think when the kids are polled, they’ll often think about the flashy, unsubstantial things that kids notice, like magnets on rental limousines, rather than Mack’s effectiveness with the family.
burntorangehorn - January 26, 2012
What does this mean from Durren Neal?
@x_SincerelyJas he is going to OU
Snide Aside - January 25, 2012
Don't worry about the above tweet - didn't apply to DGB
Snide Aside - January 25, 2012
Another theory: it wasn't a school/coach, but someone in DGB's family who turned in Petrino
No, I don’t think that’s the most likely scenario at all, but let’s say the mother does actually dislike Petrino. Maybe she doesn’t want her son to buy into the opportunity of playing for that jerk, or maybe she doesn’t want the guy to even come into her homee. Either she or another family member who didn’t like Petrino or Arkansas could’ve dropped the dime. Presto, no Petrino.
No? Okay, maybe not.
burntorangehorn - January 25, 2012
Point made - Arky could just be out and was told so.
Snide Aside - January 25, 2012
If mama has any say in this that bodes very well for us. Mama’s are Mack’s specialty.
shnsajax - January 25, 2012 via mobile
DGB's mom apparently is an active member of MADD
So that’s Petrino, Pinkel, and well Stoops of course, that don’t sit well with her. Mack and Sally are like that favorite aunt and uncle. Great place to be in.
btown1110 - January 25, 2012
Keep her away from Augie!
2Cor12:9 - January 26, 2012
I never heard about Petrino and Stoops DUI's
When did those happen?
What’s awful is that Texas suspends a player for a DUI for a longer time than Missouri suspends its head FB coach.
Of course Augie only missed four games over three days, so…
burntorangehorn - January 26, 2012
Per Manny Diaz Tweet...
Texas Defense just got better today. Aka Santos has committed orrrrrrrr Maulerson has said he is going to commit. Either way, if either is true, good day for UT!
STLaw - January 25, 2012
Diaz has Twitter?!
GoHornsGo90 - January 25, 2012
@UT_MannyDiaz
STLaw - January 26, 2012
Seriously.
pleaseplaykindle - January 26, 2012
Both are true.
btown1110 - January 26, 2012
pretty sure
Its santos b/c mack visited with him today
jtdoes - January 26, 2012 via mobile
I think that this
is making a mountain out of a molehill and isn’t going to affect his decision.
greggym - January 26, 2012
I saw a pic
of the Arkie recruits wearing Akansas jerseys.If they gave them to those boys that is another violation.I don’t know if they did or not but the Horns do not do it.
TCB Orange Dino - January 26, 2012
Well, this is a picture from Raulerson's visit...
https://twitter.com/#!/JakeRaulerson55/status/161256578341814273/photo/1
nosoupforyou - January 26, 2012
DGB
burntorangehorn, the Beckham’s have one an incredible job of protecting Dorial from coaches who could compromise his future. A recruiting violation by Petrino could certainly do that. What better way to protect their son than report that a coach made contact, without the young man’s consent, during a quiet/dead period.
As a parent you have a responsibility to protect your children. If the Beckham’s did make a report, they did so to protect their son. He is a fortunate young man in many ways, and I am glad that he will benefit from their wisdom for years to come.
Integrity cannot be overrated.
Hook ’em!
j_java - January 26, 2012
ARKY just signed a WR out of JUCO
Demtrius Wilson (6’2" guy). Could this be a DGB replacement?
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=5449358
Wrangler86 - January 26, 2012
And, he's the 6th WR commit for the HOGS
Talking about HOGGING the WRs. So, if DGB were to commit to ARK which of those other guys get the Saban/SEC trap door trick and don’t get in?
Really interesting developments.
Wrangler86 - January 26, 2012
So, it looks as if it's going from Arky and us to Misery and us?
Snide Aside - January 26, 2012
Or, maybe it's always been between Arky and Misery and we just have nice apparal and cookies?
Snide Aside - January 26, 2012
Those cookies..
Must be damn good then. I want some.
HookemHouston - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Maybe Darius White did us a favorite with Misery
I mean, Darius White ragged on Texas to DGB, so I doubt DGB thinks that much of Darius White. That is pretty classless no matter what. So, now Darius White is at Misery and if DGB wants to stay away from that cancer and bad attitude his spot is wide open at Texas. I’m talking myself into liking our chances.
Pinkel in a helicopter is fun, but a bit theatric.
Wrangler86 - January 26, 2012
I wonder how much the Mizzou-to-the-$EC is impacting his decision.
It’s gotta be appealing to him even though they’ll have a much more resistant path there to their conference championship game than they did in the Big 12* North. I just wonder if he’d still be just as serious w/ Mizzou if they woulda stayed put in the “inferior” Big 12*
robthecob - January 26, 2012
Speaking of Misery and on an off subject
Neinas is not too happy with Missouri OT the Big East!
“We had a teleconference call with those in the SEC, Big East, ACC, Mountain West and Conference USA. We all agreed we could save money and avoid litigation if all held serve for 2012-13. All agreed. But Missouri made a very selfish decision. It’s been very disruptive. Missouri gave us notice in November [of 2011] and it’s pretty difficult to move forward then.”
Neinas acknowledged the Big East would be in a similar position if WVU indeed jumps for next season. But he’s not overly sympathetic.
“The Big East gets on planes and flies all over the country inviting other schools,” Neinas said. "But they raise hell when West Virginia wants to come to the Big 12?
Snide Aside - January 26, 2012
Do you have the link to that?
I would like to read it. I also heard rumors that Big XII is also mad because it has become more clear that Misery and A&M were talking way earlier than previously believed. Any truth to that? The more information that is revealed I think it will be more and more clear that A&M was the bad guy in all this. I believe Dodds. And, I think AD Byrne and HC Sherman didn’t want the move so it was all being done by Loftin and some puppet masters in the SEC shadows.
Talk about stupid moves and timeing—only A&M would be dumb enough to move to the SEC in hopes of selling more tickets to their games and get visitors to C.S. and at the same time gut their stadium and not be able to host games. So Aggie. They should have waited until their stadium was done at least.
Wrangler86 - January 26, 2012
But did they have the money to do the stadium?
I don’t think they’d have had the cash without the donors opening their wallets in response to the SEC move.
Horncasting - January 26, 2012
Are the donors opening up the pocket books to that extent?
They’ve still got a pretty hefty fee to pay to the Big 12 as well as dead money they’re paying to Sherman. I don’t claim to know anything about it but it seems like they would have to have a pretty monumental flood of donations to cover all of this at the same time.
cade21 - January 26, 2012
not sure they will have to pay out money
may just end up being they forfeit their Big 12 money. Still have a lot of lost revenue to make up, but will be harder to actually get Aggies to sign a check
codaxx - January 26, 2012
From what I heard/read
(which may be completely false)
They stadium issue would not have been possible in the near term. Judging from the fact that they had to take out that loan a few years back, it seems more than plausible.
Horncasting - January 26, 2012
The general idea
is that any money A&M pays won’t actually be a payment, but will be a withholding of money owed by the Big 12. That is due to the incredibly crappy wording in the Big 12 conference contract.
Additionally, because of how poorly worded the parts in the contract are regarding payouts, it is much more likely that A&M and the Big 12 settle for somewhere in the 8 – 10 million dollar range (slightly more than Nebraska and Colorado). This is due in large part to the confusion about when the withholding of income is supposed to take place. The contract is worded in such a way that the only withholding should come in the last 2 years of the contract, not the last 2 years that team is in the league.
It’s really an incredibly poorly written contract for schools that have tens of millions of dollars to hire lawyers who aren’t idiots. It was probably written this way on purpose, to allow the schools lots of leeway on potential future conference moves, tv deals, etc etc.
ihavethemelody - January 26, 2012
That can't be right, can it?
If it is only about the final two years of the contract, then why did Nebraska and Colorado have to forfeit what they did? The Big 12’s first-tier contract with ABC/ESPN is through the 2015-2016 year, and its second-tier rights with FOX go through something like 2025. If teams could only be penalized for the final two years of the contract, then neither Nebraska nor Colorado would’ve had to have paid anything, correct?
burntorangehorn - January 26, 2012
This is it
Snide Aside - January 26, 2012
I'm sorry.
But I just don’t understand how a head coach of a major college football program just “bumps into” the number one recruit in the nation who also happens to have that school in his final list. Things like that just don’t happen.
I would be really, really surprised if, as a head football coach, he had no idea about the AAA game. And if he did know about it, he didn’t take the proper steps in order to follow NCAA guidelines about in-person contact. I mean, what’s the likelihood that DGB was at the coach’s convention? Small. I’m not saying Petrino sought him out, but as a coach you have to know this kind of stuff.
40A - January 26, 2012
Yep
Horncasting - January 26, 2012
Do coaches attend the AAA game to watch players?
I suppose it’s possible he was there to watch, but not to bump into any particular player. Seems a little risky, plausible or not.
burntorangehorn - January 26, 2012
no idea if this happened, but
A lot of visitors to SA go to the riverwalk in the evenings for food and scenery. If you haven’t been, you basically are talking about a small canal lined with food and drink, and very narrow sidewalks…very easy to “bump into” someone in that small area. I don’t go that often, but whenever I do I run into someone I know.
UTLawGrad - January 26, 2012
Yeah, I've made my way along both sides of that many times
And I totally get what you’re saying. I don’t think I spotted where this actually happened, but if it was just somewhere out in the city, it’s hard to know quite what to think. Tourist attractions are what they are, and out-of-towners are going to concentrate there, raising the possibility of such a chance encounter.
burntorangehorn - January 26, 2012
Coaches are not allowed to attend those games.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 26, 2012
I stumped my toe
On table that has been in the same place for five years. I have no desire to inflict pain my toe but has happened none the less. The moral is, sometimes accidents do happen.
Now, I’m not saying it is one way or the other. What I am saying is this, I (we) don’t know the circumstances.
HogCP - January 26, 2012 via iPhone app
but
we know Petrino didn’t self-report the incident…
UTLawGrad - January 26, 2012
Fair point
I’m not 100% sure there is anything to report. But, I am far from an expert in recruiting regulations.
HogCP - January 26, 2012 via iPhone app
Right. I don't want to make any accusations, I'm just going on what was reported from the article.
Your comparison above isn’t fair. However, we’ll go with it. But pretend your table is one of the most important tables you’ve ever bought. Stubbing your toe on that table would mean it would be damaged, and you might possibly have to replace it. AND your toe gets hurt. You would steer clear of that table right? You would make sure you were “above reproach” and that your toe never got near that table.
I think you get what I’m saying.
40A - January 27, 2012
Per IT this morning
Early this morning I had a chance to speak with our source at Hillcrest High School, where Texas wide receiver target Dorial Green-Beckham attends. Mack Brown is expected to be in Springfield, Mo. as early as this morning.
“It’s a big day for Dorial,” said the source. “Coach Brown is expected sometime early today. This week has been a lot of fun due to all the coaches coming and going, but everyone is excited about Coach Brown being here.”
So what’s the latest as far as his recruitment goes?
“I think I underestimated Texas last week when we spoke,” the source said. “But I also think I was right on Missouri. So, gun to my head, it’s Texas and Missouri with Arkansas as a distant third. I’m sure you’ve heard now about Coach Petrino and all that. That doesn’t help their cause any. I really think it will come down to the Longhorns and Tigers.”
DGB will still take an official visit to Missouri this weekend. We’ll try to touch base with the source later today to see how Brown’s visit went.
btown1110 - January 26, 2012
Let's hope that Mizzou visit gets cancelled
I’m sure something important could come up to make it get rescheduled.
Wrangler86 - January 26, 2012
like a sudden urge to wear a Burnt Orange jersey?
horns1025 - January 26, 2012
Shouldnt DGB be in school today?
I don’t know how the visits go but its gotta suck for us that Mack is visiting at his school and not at his house.
DGB wouldn’t really have the time with Mack if he had to be in class. Different than hanging out in the living room with family.
Hippie Killer - January 26, 2012 via mobile
any word on how Mack's visit with DGB and his family went?
horns1025 - January 26, 2012
per AAS
According to a source familiar with the situation, Texas’ visit Thursday went “about as good as those visits can go.”
http://www.statesman.com/sports/longhorns/horns-make-their-final-recruiting-pitch-to-dgb-2128390.html
UTLawGrad - January 26, 2012
Mack visited him at school...
and not at home.
Which is shitty IMO.
DGB has got to be in class, so not sure how much time he gets to spend with Mack. Much different than the “in-home visit” with the family that was being reported.
Hippie Killer - January 27, 2012
its not bad for all we know the school made and exemption for him
And let him skip a class to talk with coach Brown and its not hard for parents to come to a school
horns1025 - January 27, 2012 via mobile
When coaches came to visit me at school, they usually coordinated with the school
They ensured it would be during a class I could miss, like JROTC or something. I’m sure they do something similar at most schools.
Do we know for sure that Mack only saw him at school, and didn’t hang around for school to be out so he could pop in the house? I can see how it’d be nice to have a famous coach visit at school rather than home, although both would obviously be best.
burntorangehorn - January 27, 2012
Is there any word on if
he spoke to the parents afterwards? At this point, who knows if DGB actually knows where he wants, and I think Mack’s best shot is with the parents. Some time with just the parents alone would have done wonders.
40A - January 27, 2012
I know his Dad was there since he's DGB's coach.
Nunna Yo Bizness - January 27, 2012
As good as it can go? What the hell does that mean?
Snide Aside - January 26, 2012
seriously..
As good as it can go could mean we’ve been eliminated and couldn’t have made up any ground regardless, or the opposite of that. Ha.
HookemHouston - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Pretty conservative reporting there from the statesman.
They are gonna stay right on that fence-line.
40A - January 27, 2012
Right - "as good as it can go" means he is signing with us!
Isn’t that as good as it can go?
Snide Aside - January 27, 2012
That's a good point. They probably made it completely ambiguous so that....
no matter which way the DGB thing turns out they can claim they were dead on with their sources.
Nunna Yo Bizness - January 27, 2012
Exactly!
They look good no matter what.
40A - January 27, 2012
JS on IT has supposedly posted an update from his source on the DGB visit yesterday.
However, it’s behind the paywall so I don’t know what it says. I’m just gonna guess though that his source says it went as good as it can go. :)
Nunna Yo Bizness - January 27, 2012
Shuttlesworth
probably has some good info on it.
But, the dude sold out, so we might have to wait a couple days before some of the information starts to leak out.
Hippie Killer - January 27, 2012
JS hasn't posted the update yet - probably this PM
Snide Aside - January 27, 2012
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