Weeks of speculation about whether Texas would pursue a JUCO or graduate transfer quarterback to compete for the starting job in 2012 can now be put to rest after Orangebloods broke the news on Tuesday that East Mississippi Community College quarterback Bo Wallace is planning a trip to Austin ($).
While the details had not been finalized as of Tuesday evening, Wallace told Orangebloods that he is planning on speaking with Texas co-offensive coordinator Bryan Harsin on Wednesday after the assistant coach reached out to Wallace's coaches to gauge the star quarterback's interest in the Longhorns. According to a report from Hookem.com, that phone call happened after Wallace spoke with Orangebloods and resulted in Harsin extending an offer ($) to Wallace.
As far as that interest is concerned, Wallace indicated that if he does indeed visit Texas, the Longhorns would "go straight to the top" of his current list, which includes Indiana, Baylor, and Ole Miss, with Mississippi State the most recent school to offer. The former Arkansas State quarterback is embarking on a wild week that will see him visit Indiana and Baylor, with the plan right now being to make short trip down to Austin from Waco on Saturday after his visit to Baylor.
If the visit goes well, the Longhorns appear to be in a strong position to land Wallace, who has in the past expressed an interest in playing in the SEC.
The NJCAA Offensive Player of the Year and top JUCO quarterback in the country after setting single-season records for passing yards, total offense, and touchdowns, Wallace helped lead EMCC to the junior college national championship and threw for seven touchdown passes in four different games while teaming with current Longhorn commit Brandon Moore. A state champion in high school as well, Wallace was a lightly-recruited two-star recruit who chose Arkansas State over offers from Tennessee Tech and Tennessee-Martin despite being named Tennessee Mr. Football as a senior. Wallace left Arkansas State after one season and will have three years of eligibility remaining.
The numbers Wallace put up in his year at EMCC are certainly impressive, but after watching both his high school and junior college film, his ability to adjust his mechanics by shortening his release and taking out a hitch at the top of his delivery speaks well to his coachability. As a result, the ball now jumps out of his hand better, though he doesn't consistently spin the ball as well as David Ash.
If there's a major concern with Wallace, it is in how quickly he can make the transition to major-college football, especially with his decision-making. His highlight reel from the 2011 season suggests that he has something of a gunslinger mentality, as he had a tendency to throw the ball up for grabs when pressured and was often bailed out by a strong receiving corps. Especially when he had pressure in his face, Wallace's footwork often broke down, leading to major decreases in velocity -- though Wallace has acceptable arm strength, he doesn't have the arm strength to make up for breakdowns with his footwork.
If Wallace does choose Texas, he will be able to enroll this month and participate in spring practice, necessary since he may only have a small window to win the job if David Ash improves before the 2012 season starts. The thought here is that Wallace will need some time to transition to the college game and could struggle with his decision-making, a significant issue since the Longhorns are setting up to be a team that relies on the running game and a strong defense next season, which will place a premium on avoiding turnovers from the quarterback position.
The decision to offer Wallace weeks after head coach Mack Brown said it was unlikely that the Longhorns would pursue a junior college or graduate transfer quarterback could be a sign that Case McCoy is on his way out of the program after not receiving a single snap in the Holiday Bowl, despite Brown indicating multiple times before the game that both quarterbacks would play.
If McCoy does depart, that would leave Texas dangerously thin at the quarterback position with only the two incoming freshmen behind Ash and make taking a third quarterback in the 2012 class a virtual necessity. Right now, it looks like Wallace may be that guy.
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Can we make the offer conditional
on losing the Bama Bangs?
CMDR - January 4, 2012
No way
I’m jealous as hell; I used to have hair like that…..sigh
Wrangler86 - January 4, 2012
Bama Bangs...
gotta go.
No grown man should have Bama “Beiber” Bangs.
If he refuses, pull the offer off the table…crumble it up and wipe your ass with it Mack!!!
Hippie Killer - January 4, 2012
I got to thinking about the QBs' various haircuts...
…and accidentally imagined Case McCoy playing Bill S. Preston, Esquire.
burntorangehorn - January 4, 2012
Totally
Lets make sure he shaves every morning and keeps the trim up top high and tight.
Strict dress code will apply. Collared shirts and slacks while on campus, no hats unless its a beret and only when accompanied by full fatigues, and certainly no birkenstock sandals like those crazy hippies.
Also, all turns on campus should be made in 90 degree fashion. No walking on the grass, and only address upper classmen when they have spoken to you first.
Cause THAT’S what being a Longhorn is all about
trident - January 5, 2012
I laughed
Well done. Point noted. Points awarded.
burntorangehorn - January 5, 2012
Hook'em on one hand, fingers crossed on the other?
VegasLonghorn - January 4, 2012
I just now tried crossing my pointer and pinky on my hookem hand
It turns out it’s possible, but only with the help of my other hand, which is usually busy with a hookem of its own.
burntorangehorn - January 4, 2012
Physical freak, and old dude, that I am
I can cross pinkie and pointer on both hands. Easily.
But why would you?
edsp - January 4, 2012
Fingers crossed hookem?
burntorangehorn - January 4, 2012
Everyone seems to be after this guy.
Mississippi State has made him an offer, along with official visits planned for Baylor, Indiana and Ole Miss. It sounds like he will be able to compete for immediate playing time. Either way, if McCoy leaves, we are dangerously thin at QB. Who know, maybe Wallace will be what the program needs to make red-shirting Brewer happen.
VegasLonghorn - January 4, 2012
Excitement Abounds
This is a fantastic move for the Horns, his mechanics are so much better than what we have right now – I would say that he would likely start in 2012. In addition, you have to have some contingency to mitigate the risk of a McCoy transfer. Even if he did not beat out Ash – he would protect against the need to burn the shirts of the 2012 commits with an Ash injury. We cannot rule out greatness in 2012. With a healthy stable of RBs, and potential greatness in the D – we are Oline and QB improvement away from possible contention for a conf title.
realmccoy - January 4, 2012
I agree ...
And I like what this says about how our staff is committed to keeping the gas on the pedal. They seem to clearly believe that they are “in the mix” starting in 2012. I interpret that to mean contending for the conference title and then … we takes our chances.
But Mack and the fellas are playing for keeps. It fires me up.
Distributor of the Football - January 4, 2012
It's exciting to think about what he could mean to the offense
But I’m curbing my expectations. Much like a true freshman, a first-year juco transfer is going to have that learning curve. He’ll have the advantage of more game experience against more athletic competition than a true freshman generally has, but of course Ash and McCoy both have even higher-level game experience—just not much success as a result.
burntorangehorn - January 4, 2012
I thought the JUCO tape was at a much higher game speed than the HS tapes. I was really surprised at the caliber of the JUCO ball. But again, I think the key is – even if he cannot beat Ash he is a huge insurance policy against the Case transfer. With Wallace, an Ash injury would save Brewer’s shirt if Case wasn’t on the 40. I am guessing this entire move indicates that Case is a goner. I am actually sad to see that.
realmccoy - January 4, 2012
I agree that this would be UT's perspective, but...
…I’m pretty sure Wallace’s perspective will be that he’ll want a very good chance to start. Granted, Texas doesn’t exactly have anyone who should scare a competent challenger for the QB job, but he might see the offensive systems and depth charts at Baylor and Indiana as even friendlier.
burntorangehorn - January 4, 2012
I appreciate that the staff is at least being proactive about the current QB situation.....
….let’s see where the chips fall with this one.
silky51 - January 4, 2012
This reminds me of the old punctuation classic...
Eats, Shoots and Leaves.
The second paragraph caught my eye. I know the dollar sign means “pay site”, but it did make me laugh out loud and think about Cam Newton.
According to a report from Hookem.com, that phone call happened after Wallace spoke with Orangebloods and resulted in Harsin extending an offer ($) to Wallace.
Here’s hoping that we sign Bo, and that he has all of Cam’s talent and none of his baggage. It also might help if his Dad works and can’t make frequent car trips to Austin outside of game days.
Good article.
dec3169 - January 4, 2012
Is that a shot at Brad McCoy?
Hippie Killer - January 4, 2012
OOP$
beast in bama - January 4, 2012
Redshirt
GOBR says he has three years of eligibility. Did he redshirt at Arkansas State?
everything horns - January 4, 2012
Yeah.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 4, 2012
Do we know why he left Arkansas State?
Was it grades? Did he get beat out? ASU has a pretty good junior QB this year in Ryan Aplin.
JoeT63 - January 4, 2012
From Wallace's interview at the time of his transfer
"The coaches decided to redshirt me pretty early in the process," Wallace said. "Of course I wanted to come in and play as a freshmen, but I also understand that few freshmen get to play right away. What bothered me more was that it didn’t seem like they continued to coach me so I could improve after they decided to redshirt me."
"They promoted the offensive coordinator to head coach and that made my decision to leave easier, because I didn’t feel like he had coached me during the year to improve as a player," Wallace said. "I felt like changing schools might provide me with a better opportunity. The decision of where to transfer to was not an easy one."
sessamoid - January 4, 2012
If that's true, I am pretty sure we can probably eliminate Ole Miss from his list of considerations
Given that Hugh Freeze is now coaching there, and was the OC at Arkansas State when Wallace was there.
burntorangehorn - January 4, 2012
Yeah, but I wonder if he regrets it now that Malzahn is there.
And now (according to unconfirmed reports) so is Michael Dyer. Aggy just got a cold chill.
JoeT63 - January 5, 2012
Hey, he could always go back there and have a really good chance of starting
Not sure his old teammates would heartily welcome him back, but they might. Depends on the manner in which he left, I suppose. But yeah, some Malzahn, Dyer, and Wallace might make a nice opponent.
What’s that about aggie? I don’t think they have ASU on their OOC schedule anytime soon, although they do have two spots left for 2012 OOC opponents, with openings Sept. 22nd, Oct. 13th, and Nov. 17th.
burntorangehorn - January 5, 2012
No, I don't think they have them scheduled.
I’m just guessing that any recollections of mean ol’ Arkansas State can’t be fond ones in farmville.
JoeT63 - January 5, 2012
Oh, I forgot about that
That was classic.
burntorangehorn - January 5, 2012
Thanks for this question
It didn’t occur to me that players redshirt in JUCO, so I assumed the 3 years eligibility must have been an error. Sorry, GOBR for assuming you had made an error.
OBdoc - January 5, 2012
He redshirted at Arkansas State, not in juco
He was a member of ASU’s 2010 recruiting class. He redshirted 2010 at ASU, then transferred to EMCC and played in the 2011 season. Now he’s ready to transfer back up, although I believe he could play another season in juco if he wanted.
burntorangehorn - January 5, 2012
Why I like the Wallace move:
1) He will push Ash. Ash was asked to be a game manager against Cal, now he might be asked to be a complete quarterback with Wallace pushing him.
2) It stabilizes the QB position. Texas should be able to count on 3 more years with Ash, and 3 more years with Wallace. That’s two veteran QBs in the program. When was the last time Texas had that necessity? VY and Nordgren are the most recent.
3) It will allow Brewer to redshirt. No more burning Brewer’s shirt in case of emergency. He’ll sit and develop. Thank goodness.
4) It allows Texas to roll the dice with Swoopes. This could change the Barrett vs. Swoopes dynamic. Ash and Wallace will have 2 more years of eligibility left when the 2013 QB reports. If Texas goes with Swoopes, he would have at least 2 years develop in the program. He shouldn’t be asked to play right away. I feel comfortable giving Harsin at least 2 years to get Swoopes ready. If Texas signs Wallace, I’m officially in the Swoopes Camp to stay.
5) Don Draper once said, “If you don’t like what is being said, change the conversation.” Thomas Johnson and DGB are hearing negative recruiting every single day about Texas’ QBs. How many of those schools will be able to say that they have a First Team All American JUCO QB coming in with the 2012 class? Bo Wallace isn’t Darron Thomas or Tyler Wilson, but again it changes the conversation.
billfromlaketravis - January 4, 2012
Good...
because I don’t think Darron Thomas could run our offense anyways.
Hippie Killer - January 4, 2012
Don't think so?
If he couldn’t, then it’s a problem with the Texas offense, because it’s not nearly as good or productive as Oregon’s.
burntorangehorn - January 4, 2012
+1
MeatchickenHorn - January 4, 2012
I like the idea of Ash, Wallace and Brewer on the roster. With Overstreet as a wild card.
To be blunt, if Wallace pushes Ash to be better and pushes McCoy out, that would be OK with me. It feels (I say feels because I can’t prove it) more and more like the coaching staff agrees. No bowl snaps and this juco offer seems to confirm my suspicions.
And if Wallace turns out to be truly good then that changes everything for the better. Big time. To me it seems well worth the risk because I seriously doubt Ash would leave at this point and McCoy is somewhere between a mere placeholder and a true liability.
A brief look at the film shows that he has a quick release and obviously Harsin likes what he sees. That’s good enough for me.
WreckerTex - January 4, 2012
I have seen grumblings else where
that this move might cause Brewer to re-think his commitment to UT.
While I don’t believe this, is there any merit to the worry by others?
mccoy12 - January 4, 2012
Brewer seems like a smart kid
Having the chance to redshirt should be viewed as a blessing for him. QB is a position that kids will almost always be better served by redshirting a year and learning.
Ash and Wallace will be 2 years ahead after Brewer’s redshirt, so that should be plenty of seperation to not runoff Brewer. This is actually doing him a favor so he doesn’t blow his redshirt his freshman year and get thrown in to the fire too soon like Ash did.
Wrangler86 - January 4, 2012
I Agree
I didn’t post this at InsideTexas, but, I was also thinking that because he was such a hardcore Texas guy, there was no way he would go else where. He’s worked really hard to recruit a Hell of a class with him. That’d be a lot of great work wasted.
mccoy12 - January 4, 2012
You would also think that the staff is communicating with Brewer about what this means and what their plans are ...
I think it’s a great move, all the way around.
Getting greedy, but thinking about Wallace, and DGB … and Edwards (I know he’s playing the hat game and it’s iffy, but still, it’s fun to think about) …
This could be fun.
Distributor of the Football - January 4, 2012
Yeah, and it doesn't change much for Brewer
Instead of McCoy ahead of him it is Wallace. A great improvement for the Longhorns and Brewer gets a better shot at having time to develop.
I know kids want to play right away, but QBs like Brewer are usually smart enough to know that the extra year is really important. He can redshirt as a freshman, and then hope to get some game snaps as a R. Fresh his sophomore year, and then be the likely starter his junior year. He seems to get it and I can’t imagine this being a negative to turn him off. It should actually make him happy and take off some pressure.
Wrangler86 - January 4, 2012
... plus, if Case were staying, he would be holding down the QB position (cough, cough) for two more years any way (cough) ...
Distributor of the Football - January 4, 2012
good move all 'round
This could signal how highly the staff rates Thomas Johnson.
ColbyA - January 4, 2012
Hot Damn!
Paleface Horn - January 4, 2012
yessir
silky51 - January 4, 2012
I figured i'd see you posting for this
Lol
mccoy12 - January 4, 2012
Saturday can't come early enough...
Now I know I wear the orangecolored glasses but why would anyone choose to go to Indiana,Baylor or the two Mississippis over a chance to start at UT.
with Harsin and Major as coaches and two recent QBs in the pros I think the choice is pretty clear cut.
TCB Orange Dino - January 4, 2012
Chance to start right away at those places...
but Texas offers him a legitimate chance to win a MNC in his first year like Cam Newton did…
TowerPower - January 4, 2012
F R E E D O M ! !
MeatchickenHorn - January 4, 2012
????
Freedom from what dude?
Hippie Killer - January 4, 2012
Freedom from what?
Well, Mel Gibson
-William Wallace.chupita - January 4, 2012
Freedom possibly from an untenable QB situation....ie McCoy possible transfer/Brewer redshirt/etc etc
MeatchickenHorn - January 4, 2012
Freedom from more Ash - McCoy comparisons and grumblings...
longhorn35 - January 4, 2012
That too
MeatchickenHorn - January 4, 2012
impact on other qb's
i can’t tell you enough how that does not bother me. The great ones (like maybe Brewer will be) know they are good and should not be afraid of competition. They all know this is UT, and that we aspire to high ambitions here. We want the best, in music and physics, and in our football team. and that means quality qb’s. They should aspire to be the best, and not expect that they will not have great athletes to compete against.
if they want to win a NC, they need to be really good, and they need to know that we are getting the very best team we can get, at every single position.
if they are afraid of that competition, maybe they should play in the SEC for Aggie
Longhorn723 - January 4, 2012
I don't know why anyone thinks Ash is our future quarterback.
Did you see that Missouri game? Yuck.
He might be able to beat bad teams, but we need to be able to beat all teams. We should be able to beat good teams and crush bad teams, like Colt and Vince were able to do. Okay, maybe he was just a freshman, but I don’t know about you, his inability to go check more than one read is disturbing. Harsin (shrewdly) didn’t ask more of him at the end of the season. Check one read, if it’s not there, run it or throw it out of bounds. That’s not good enough. That’s not going to get it done against better teams than Cal. You can’t count on your defense being that dominating every week.
So, Bo Wallace would be the favorite to start next season if he commits. I don’t think we’ll have any inherent loyalty to David Ash and I don’t get why anyone is expecting Jalen Overstreet to be anything other than a career back-up. Bo Wallace and Connor Brewer are going to be the most talented quarterbacks on our roster. Ash and Overstreet should (and likely will) remain back-ups. Both were lucky to get a Texas offer to begin with. I expect McCoy to transfer.
I just worry about Bo Wallace having so much eligibility. I wish he had a year less (but I may not once he gets here). I know Connor wants to redshirt, but I don’t think he wants to wait three years to get his shot. On the other hand, it could be worse. I’ll be happy if we don’t need Brewer to start. That will be a nice change after needing underclassmen to be the starter a couple years in a row now.
LookinForIt - January 4, 2012
Remember our top 4 offensive producers were out that game
Brown, Bergeron, had Fozzy for 1Q and no Shipley, not a big surprise it was ugly
HornsUpInLA - January 4, 2012
He still should have been able to do more.
We still should have won that game. Being down only one WR shouldn’t be that big of a deal. He couldn’t get anything going in the passing game.
LookinForIt - January 4, 2012
I didn't know Brown, Bergeron and Fozzy were all just "one WR"
When the defense knows you don’t have a running threat, it becomes a bit harder to run the ball. You can’t pretend that one has no effect on the other.
LongCat - January 4, 2012
That may be an acceptible excuse if he wasn't missingly wildly on all his throws.
I meant that just one WR was out. We still had all the others.
LookinForIt - January 4, 2012
It's an acceptable excuse
to not have your top 4 offensive players and struggle mightily.
40A - January 5, 2012
He looked pretty bad even when he did have those players available.
burntorangehorn - January 5, 2012
He looked pretty good to me
against Cal.
40A - January 5, 2012
Really? I didn't think so
Maybe a couple of decent throws in the second half, but that’s it. The one thing that was obviously a huge improvement over his otherwise-mediocre season was the lack of turnovers, but again, one game doesn’t necessarily negate the overall trend.
burntorangehorn - January 5, 2012
I thought/think
he can use some polish on deep balls. But he was the offensive MVP! Give the guy some credit. He won us the game.
I think it does negate the overall trend because that was his first shot with the first team from start to finish with every playmaker available and an offense more attune to his skills.
40A - January 5, 2012
I didn't think he deserved the MVP
I really felt like if any Texas Longhorn deserved offensive MVP, it would’ve been Goodwin, but also keep in mind that a big part of why Ash got the MVP wasn’t his quarterbacking, but his TD reception on the trick play.
In reality, Keenan Allen was probably the most deserving of the MVP award.
burntorangehorn - January 5, 2012
Whether
he ran for them, caught them, or threw them is no matter.
I just don’t understand, is it because we’ve been spoiled with great QB play? It will never be good enough.
I thought Keenan Allen was a beast too, but Ash still got it.
40A - January 5, 2012
I'm not asking for a repeat of Vince or Colt
I’d definitely be satisfied with some Applewhite- or Simms-level play, to be honest. Or if we’re looking at non-Longhorn examples, maybe some Tanner Price, Collin Klein, or James Vandenberg.
burntorangehorn - January 5, 2012
Ash's Cal game
was very very Simms like.
40A - January 6, 2012
Ash has a far ways to go to be as sharp as Simms was.
robthecob - January 7, 2012
Ash had 3 good throws
and Davis dropped 2 of them. The pass to Irby was horrible.
LEMILES - January 5, 2012 via Android app
Surprised it took this long for someone to bash Ash.
By the way, Wallace is not more talented than Ash and won’t be the favorite to be the starter next year if he comes to Texas.
Wescott Eberts (GoBR) - January 4, 2012
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Going into the spring, I don’t think Harsin is going to consider anyone the favorite to be the starter next season. Ash just wasn’t good enough to earn that kind of respect. So the competition will be wide open again. And considering Wallace is older and a proven winner on the JUCO level, I give him the edge. Ash is a known commodity to Harsin. This is the same Ash that Harsin benched multiple times. I think he’s (already and going to be) looking for a fresh face.
LookinForIt - January 4, 2012
Ash wasn't taking starter reps until week 3
Kind of tough to grasp the offense, pre snap reads, and get familiar with going through the progressions when you are getting 4th string reps up until the start of the season.
Hobbes881 - January 4, 2012
If you don't think
that Ash starting and playing the whole bowl game (after Mack said over and over again that Case would play) isn’t an indication that Ash is the favorite going into next season, well, I don’t know what to tell you.
40A - January 5, 2012
I'd hope no one would be the favorite
This QB race is a contest for the least-ugly.
burntorangehorn - January 4, 2012
(a little off topic) so how many people think?...
… mack is wanting to win a NC, or at least have a trip to, soon. I think mack is breaking any and every old ‘rule’ he had (and not to the point of cheating obviously) to win.
i think mack is giving more control to the younger guys and listening to them more and more because he wants to win ASAP. I think he wants to retire soon and wants a NC chance before he leaves.
vanterminatorhorn - January 4, 2012
I think he realizes he has a championship caliber team in 2012
and the ONLY weak spot is at quarterback. So I think it’s more him realizing what opportunity he has than him being desperate. The goal each year is to win a championship. When you can do that by making only one or two moves, you better do it or suffer wondering what could have been.
What quarterback wouldn’t want to come and slide in to the starting spot of a championship-caliber team?
It’s weird seeing him change his tune in regards to JUCO kids, but I think he saw what Gene Chizik did at Auburn with Cam Newton and Nick Fairley and he thinks he can replicate it. Also, I think he’s open-minded. He believes in Manny Diaz and Bryan Harsin and he trusts them.
LookinForIt - January 4, 2012
LOVE the idea of an instant back-up...
…and how that benefits both Ash and Brewer, but watching Wallace’s highlights over at Barking Carnival I have to say that he doesn’t seem much better than Case. He locks onto receivers, doesn’t seem very big, there isn’t much demonstration of arm strength (so that’s an “incomplete” not a “fail”) but MOST concerning is that this watches more like a highlight reel of his receivers, who consistently made good plays to bail him out of not throwing to the chains or endzone when needed. Argh… But, if HarsinWhite see some upside, and Case is leaving, then I guess some post HS experience is better than none as Brewer and Ash develop and compete.
KevinJ - January 4, 2012
LOL, I really don't think Ash will be our starter next year.
He’s not very good. Nothing more than a game-manager. People have short memories.
LookinForIt - January 4, 2012
time will tell my friend....
We saw a true freshman playing with virtually no running game, pass blocking, or star receiver to lean upon after we had the back to back 400 yard rushing victories. If you can honestly say that you can evaluate Ash’s career and starting prospects based on that then you’re way smarter than me, and I respectfully tip my hat. But, for me, I just don’t know that anyone can call QB1 for next season at this point.
Ash could be a legend. Ash could be a bust. Brewer, McCoy, Wallace, or someone else could start next season and Ash never sees the field again. All are possible.
But, if I were a betting man, I would say that after being the Offensive MVP of our first bowl win in three seasons, and that McCoy had one good play at A&M, fell apart versus a horrible Baylor D, and didn’t take a snap in San Deigo, well, I would guess Ash is your starter on day one next season.
Regardless, here’s hoping EVERYONE develops in the off season, including our QB’s, but especially our OL and also the receivers not named Shipley.
KevinJ - January 4, 2012
+1
But Shipley too!
WreckerTex - January 5, 2012
Isn't it good that we have 240 more days to continually argue the Ash/Mcoy/Brewer/ Maybe Wallace soap opera. Where is Texas Stampede with the latest 3's Company episode ?
MeatchickenHorn - January 4, 2012
If he signs....I'm sure a new episode is on the way.
VegasLonghorn - January 4, 2012
Can someone knowledgable on the issue answer this question:
How does Mississippi JC football compare to Texas 5A HS football? They’ve got to be at least comparable right? If so, does his game tape tell you anything more than a high school QB’s game tape?
pleaseplaykindle - January 4, 2012
Purely anecdotal, but...
JUCO football in Mississippi is very good. According to this list, there are 32 (just a quick count, perhaps more) former Mississippi JUCO players on NFL rosters. On a per capita basis, I’d say that’s pretty solid.
This includes:
Someone named Donald Hawkins. ;)
LeGarrette Blount is an EMCC alum.
beast in bama - January 4, 2012
ahh yeah I forgot about Hawkins.
You make good points (and meatchickenhorn as well).
pleaseplaykindle - January 4, 2012
They did win the Juco National Championship with a pretty stout passing attack...you would think that would be a notch or two higher than Texas 5a High School.
MeatchickenHorn - January 4, 2012
In addition to impact on Case/Brewer/Overstreet
Wonder how Ash would react if he got beat out by a transfer with the same number of years of eligibility as him (assuming he doesn’t redshirt).
I guess worst case we have them both for a year, with the backup transfering next year, and allowing Brewer and Overstreet to redshirt.*
*I fully realize this is speculating on events that are pure speculation.
Horncasting - January 4, 2012
If it wern't for speculative speculation on purely speculative events, we wouldn't have any speculation at all...speculatively speaking.
MeatchickenHorn - January 4, 2012
Can we go ahead and get these WRs on the team also?
goingforthecorner - January 5, 2012
Texas cannot be one-dimensional; we need a good passing game. Next year teams will load up the box to stop the running game. I like the proactive approach the coaches are taking. The glaring problem Texas has now quarterback and punter.
bsalazar - January 5, 2012
After watching the highlight video,
I’m not overly impressed. He DOES have a very good over-hand throwing motion and fairly decent throwing ability on the run, but the ball out of his hand looks very ugly. This may be due to the fact that he doesn’t find the laces every snap but I think I am, for one, setting my expectations really low for this kid.
Nothing from this highlight video looks any better than Connor Brewer’s highlight video(s) (and for the record I’m for the ‘redshirt Brewer’ party)
40A - January 5, 2012
ah you must have missed all of the downfield completions for Touchdowns...
longhorn35 - January 5, 2012
Your response made me chuckle.
I’m by no means a QB guru but what I saw was some good throws and some atrocious defense.
40A - January 5, 2012
I just don't see a downside to this move
A) Wallace makes Ash better
B)Brewer can redshirt
C)If Brewer is as good as experts think he wins the job when he is a soph. if not we have insurance at QB
D)Our coaches should be able to develop a competent QB out of the four and as Bill says we can take the gamble that Swoopes may be a VY clone.
E)This is a Win – Win situation only loser is McCoy.
F)Posters happy to have another Simms Applewhite like lively debate.
TCB Orange Dino - January 5, 2012
The other possible loser could be Wallace, if he ends up sitting instead of starting at Baylor, Indiana, or somewhere like that
burntorangehorn - January 5, 2012
The other possible loser could be Wallace, if he ends up sitting instead of starting at Baylor, Indiana, or somewhere like that
burntorangehorn - January 5, 2012
My only fear is we don't fully commit to one QB.
I just hope we can get out of this quicksand we are stuck in at QB.
40A - January 5, 2012
Plus it might provide DGB just enough confidence in the Texas QB situation that he will
sign with Texas
rmaxearnest - January 5, 2012
Did he visit yesterday? Any feedback?
rmaxearnest - January 5, 2012
Saturday...
2Cor12:9 - January 5, 2012
Statesman had some DGB updates today.
He’s checking out the QBs just like we are:
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2012/1/5/2684382/statesman-golden-article-proves-qb-situation-concerns-dgb
WreckerTex - January 5, 2012
Maybe ....
It would be nice to see Bo Wallace be able to step in and do what Josh Heupel, Aaron Rodgers and Cam Newton were able to do…
longhorn35 - January 5, 2012
I like him
He wants to go to school, so he picks the best education. Im thinking the age helps and the playing time, dont really care about an ugly ball sometimes rather he games and improvises. Dont know how tough he is, heard gunslinger and 6’5 but am hopeful. I like it.
sam0807 - January 5, 2012
Watching the Under Armour game
Gave me no confidence that Brewer will be near a starter. He needs to redshirt.
Wrangler86 - January 5, 2012
+1
MeatchickenHorn - January 6, 2012
or confidence that Riser or Estelle will be able to block right away
Paleface Horn - January 6, 2012
What is the identity
“a significant issue since the Longhorns are setting up to be a team that relies on the running game and a strong defense next season”
Is this going to be the Horn’s identity next year to rely on the running game and a strong defense?
Plus is it the chosen identity or one made out of necessity (i.e. lack of experience, talent, youth). If it is the chosen one than I like it. If it is out of necessity, than another 8-5 season will happen.
The Big 12 will be stacked with offense next year, but if you have a defense that knows it can stop anybody and control the clock, than the conference will be won.
Righel - January 6, 2012
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